Fuel/violent theft2/nematodes comm removal appeal

[Booper Scooper]

You and your group continuously doxxed my friend Coba as well as others.

 

No way jose -1

[LuckyJack]

On 9/16/2024 at 10:39 PM, LuckyJack said:

At this time I am neutral until I see some other responses, but should this appeal be accepted I will be +1 for you remaining banned for some set amount of time for alting, along with a permanent staff ban.

I was not entirely aware of the full story of your comm removal when I first replied. After seeing the standpoints brought up by other staff and other players, I too will be changing my neutral vote to a -1 for your unban.

After thinking about the situation further, it seems as if many staff members vouch for you because you alted. This in itself is not right, we should not reward someone who has made it abundantly clear that they do not care for rules. I am sure that you have had time to grow since your removal from the community but at this point, im not sure that it matters considering what you did.

 

1 hour ago, F___ said:

The defence from Chud, Frisco & b0ne on this appeal about being given a 2nd chance after being removed are not the same what so ever.

 

Chud you were removed for Pedo accusations towards Doc who was Superadmin and the time aswell as general drama mongering. This is no where near as serious as Doxxing someone. 

 

Frisco, you were removed for saying you hoped a player died in a car crash while in a call with them. This is no where near as serious as Doxxing someone.

 

b0ne, you were removed for general player toxicity. This is no where near as serious as Doxxing someone.

 

All of you guys were given second chances because the server has changed since you were removed. The rulings on Pedo accusations were changed, general sentiments of the server changed towards toxicity or an Admin team decided that you should be given a second chance.

 

As stated the reasons you guys were removed is no where as serious as going out of your way, collecting person information and spreading it around for the entertainment for it. Even if it wasn't him directly he was still closely involved with the people that did and only stopped when they cut him off.

I agree wholeheartedly with F___ when he says that comparing other players comm removal appeals to yours is not the same and should of never been brought into this discussion. 

As for the players harping on the fact that you were 13 when this happened, I do not care, 13 or not, you are a human and you know when you're doing something wrong and the covid lockdowns are no excuse either. 

 

Finally, ask yourselves, is this a precedent we wish to set for other comm removal appeals in the future? Should we be rewarding them with open arms because we believe they have changed? Or should we be instilling the fact that it is a complete removal from the community? 

 

I would also like to apologize to those that were affected by your actions, you have caused them grief and could have cost them their jobs, relationships, and so on..

[cobaselic]

people are sending me this. I do not care if fuel comes back. +1  close the thread

 

Honestly I was pretty irritated that people kept sending me this earlier so I just said "+1, unban him" without giving it any thought.

 

Anybody that is legitimately saying "he's a changed man!" is delusional. Keep in mind that he literally didn't leave game night until this year. This place is apparently a cesspool that is cool with bringing back people that posted Rubik's work address and phone number, did god knows what to doc's reputation, like damn bruh yall are really wildin out here huh. He doxxed me too, I got over that awhile ago. But there are still people here that very much care about what he did to them. Anybody that read Rubik and Doc's responses to this appeal and still gave it a +1 obviously do not give a fuck about the server or the community, and are only interested in their own self-gain. Fuck fuel and anybody that supports him, -1

Edited September 19, 2024 by cobaselic

[sheriff]

I'd like to mention something. and would like to revise my last post.
After this long forum post i think i have come to understand this situation much better now, and i respect both sides equally. However there are some key points that i must address.

In my opinion the argument of "will this if it were to be accepted, be an issue as it will damage the set precedent of the standards of Community Removals".

I dont think it will, for a few reasons:

 

1.) I dont believe that just because an exception has been made for this player - that being of the fact that he was young and impressionable at the time of his community removal, and from what i gathered was surrounded by a lot of toxic/horrendous actors at the time.

2.) I dont believe that if this were to be accepted it will at all change the structure of the criteria for someone to be removed from the community. For the reason of the rules and punishment guidelines remain the same after the fact. and that someone doing the exact same type of offence would get the exact same punishment.

3.) I don't believe that if this were to be accepted that it will make all cases of community removed people to be allowed back in to the community. I believe that if there is someone who has done a similar offence and has been removed from the community. if they too were young and impressionable. and were for a lack of better words "groomed" into doing this to appease his toxic circle. I believe they too would deserve a shot to appeal their removal.

4.) As an extension of point 3. As all appeals this is a vote of the community. If someone would of committed an offence of which is irredeemable, the community simply wouldn't allow them to return. In contrast to this post, where the decision so far is not Unanimous in this case.

I am  +1 for 6m ban for alting whilst banned

Yet.

+1 for permanent staff ban

+1 for a 1y toxicity probation







 

Edited September 18, 2024 by sheriff

[LeGerbs]

26 minutes ago, sheriff said:

I'd like to mention something. and would like to revise my last post.
After this long forum post i think i have come to understand this situation much better now, and i respect both sides equally. However there are some key points that i must address.

In my opinion the argument of "will this if it were to be accepted, be an issue as it will damage the set precedent of the standards of Community Removals".

I dont think it will, for a few reasons:

 

1.) I dont believe that just because an exception has been made for this player - that being of the fact that he was young and impressionable at the time of his community removal, and from what i gathered was surrounded by a lot of toxic/horrendous actors at the time.

2.) I dont believe that if this were to be accepted it will at all change the structure of the criteria for someone to be removed from the community. For the reason of the rules and punishment guidelines remain the same after the fact. and that someone doing the exact same type of offence would get the exact same punishment.

3.) I don't believe that if this were to be accepted that it will make all cases of community removed people to be allowed back in to the community. I believe that if there is someone who has done a similar offence and has been removed from the community. if they too were young and impressionable. and were for a lack of better words "groomed" into doing this to appease his toxic circle. I believe they too would deserve a shot to appeal their removal.

4.) As an extension of point 3. As all appeals this is a vote of the community. If someone would of committed an offence of which is irredeemable, the community simply wouldn't allow them to return. In contrast to this post, where the decision so far is not Unanimous in this case.

I am still +1 for unban

Yet.

+1 for permanent staff ban

+1 for a 1y toxicity probation







 

This will be my last reply.

 

So collectively we're saying a player who alted just this month and became staff but was a good staff member during that time is acceptable behavior from community removed players. A complete lack of regard for our rules as long as they were a good person doing so.

 

Got it. I expect any community removed player who alts to not be held accountable for alting as long as they were being good on their alt. Because obviously a community removed player alting shows they have the utmost regard for our rules.

 

 

Edited September 18, 2024 by LeGerbs

[sheriff]

Excellent point Gerbs.

I overlooked the fact that he alted as i was considering other things.

I apologise and will revisit the post immediately!
 

[DeSantis]

I believe that everybody on this thread has contributed valid points as to why they believe that I should be banned/unbanned. Doc, LeGerbs, and Rubik have made points which I absolutely do not disagree with and will not refute the claims they made. However, I do believe that for the sake of pure transparency a timeline of events is in order. 

SECTION I: GAME NIGHT AND THE CRASHOUT

In late 2020, I applied for moderator on TitsRP for the third time, and got accepted. I cannot remember the exact dates, but I do recall that it was until Feburary of 2021 that I was a staff member for the last time on my main account. During that time, a special role with access to a text and voice channel was created. The name of this Discord role was 'Game Night', and members could request access to this channel in order to participate in the activities which occurred in the channels. During game nights (which happened quite often) the activities ranged from party games, such as jackbox (gartic phone didn't exist at the time), titsrp, various garry's mod game modes, and random source games. When the Game Night community was centralized in the TitsRP discord server, many members participated, including players of high staff ranks. This included users and high staff such as Rubik, Sugar Tits, Doc McStubbins, Abstergo, Nipple Farm, SuicideBlue, Boolin, Raccoons, Mav Mitchell, b0ne, Doge Skeletor, and many others who I do not recall the name of. At the time, Game Night was nothing more than just a no-holds barred playground where the participants had mainly contributed satirical drawings and parodies. The idea was that due to the satirical nature the normal server rules (such as usage of n word) were restricted to this channel and since it was on a loophole, nobody had an issue with the events as long as it didn't leave the channel. However, what eventually happened was that screenshots of jackbox drawings and images of racial slurs being used had been taken and revealed to the general population of the server. The administrative team at the time had decided that this was not good publicity, and Doc McStubbins and other superadmins reached out to walter that the behavior cannot continue as the TitsRP Discord is a community server and it had the potential to either leave a bad image of the server to the playerbase or get the discord (or darkrp server) blacklisted. Walter had reluctantly agreed to make a separate server but was starting to begin his downward path of psychotic behavior.

During this time, there were many different instances where walter (and the game night group) would test the rules of the server in an attempt try to push boundaries. A noteworthy instance of this was when a thread was created in December of 2020 by walter which was an attempt to loophole the allowed content on the forums based on the description of the "General Discussion" sections allowed content. Many people contributed various forms of long text passages (including myself) which eventually led to the thread being shut down as it was turning into utter chaos. The main driving force for this was that rubik loaded the thread on his cell phone and it lead to a crash of his browser as large amounts of special characters and text data attempted to render at the same time. Rubik then responded to the thread after shutting it down that "Causing an unnecessary toll on our forums will result in your accounts being terminated. Final warning", in February of 2021. This (along with the push to move the discord server) had lead walter (and eventually lead me and others who were older than me) at the time to believe that the server was corrupted by a mismanaged administrative team who had the intent to lie and deceive the playerbase for the goal of getting walter and other staff to step down. These events lead to a mass resignation (in response to walter stepping down) and my requested community removal about a month later in march prompted by a request from doge skeletor which was given by Sugar.

 

After this saga played out, all of the participants were either shunned or banned for mongering drama months later. In May 2021, a user who was still staff at the time (Dave the Assaulter, daveziggy100) went rogue and unbanned all of our accounts on the forums. This lead to walter (and others who were unbanned by him including myself) shitposting and eventually getting banned. This, along with other reasons, led to me getting my ban overwritten to a voted community removal in the same month. After this occurred, I had began alting numerous times over the years until about August of 2022, when my alt account Peppermint was caught by tene. After my account was banned, tene called me on discord to touch base an basically explained that in order to get my main unbanned, I need to disassociate from the server and focus on working on myself and improving. In august of 2022, I began a pursuit toward working on my body and mental health. I lived in an apartment which was infested with cockroaches and had a big food addiction which lead to me ballooning up to 320 lbs. Over the course of the past 2 years I've lost about 120 lbs and I feel much healthier mentally especially after I've left that group. 

 

As for F's question, the reason why it took so long to leave was because many of the other's that I had tried to convince that walter was an evil person still stayed around for much the same reason I did--the community along the way. For the older members of game night, it was quite apparent walter was your luck of the draw internet lolcow with a drinking problem, weight problem, and a tough childhood. To me however, he was a surrogate father figure, also judging by the fact he had at once point discussed with his girlfriend whether to adopt me when I was 15 years old seeing as I complained about my parental situation (abusive father) and my narcissistic mother. At the time I had thought of wlater quite highly even considering him almost a family member, I spent hours upon hours in voice calls with him and I believed everything he said, including his political beliefs. What happened eventually though is that walter would get mad over the smallest disagreements and would almost (without fail) every time ban or mute people who disagreed with him. Walter is who I would like to call a chronically online loser with a cereal box moral compass. I had intentions of leaving and creating my own server back in late 2021 but I shortly returned as I was not able to homebuild correctly and was left in the Stockholm esque situation due to not having anyone else willing to assist me in my pursuit toward building a separate community.

I will not deny at one point and many points in the past I was willing to look past walters evil attitude because he treated me better than (or atleast it appeared to) better than other members of my family and friend groups in the past. The reason why I was treated in these ways though was not because of jealousy or whatever bullshit people say, it's because I was an impressionable abuse victim of walter who he knew he could sculpt into being his perfect minion. I was fat, bald, ugly, and had no job, girlfriend, or assets. The start of walter becoming increasing inflammatory however is when I would bite back. Everytime I would however, I would be driven to an emotional breakdown as his words were paramount to me. Even if walter was a low value human being, he was someone who I still believe exceeded my value as a human being because of how little belief I had in myself. As I began feeling better in my skin (losing weight, getting involved in activities)and listening to my friends, walter grew to resent me and grew jealous. He realized that I was starting to grow distant and had less of a use for him so he started to grow resentful and began turning to threats. He would do things such as remind me that "I am really not as anonymous as I am" and that "Your home address is a phone call to a landlord away if I get your name" but he would say things such as "I'm not a psycho like you and titsrp I wouldn't do that."

 

Overall, this is pretty much the game night arc. I left finally in 2024 because I just decided I didn't give a fuck anymore if I had friends I was just so tired of pretending to believe the things that I didn't and I started to feel icky being around walter seeing as he's a useless drunk and a waste of air. There is ZiP, NADA, ABOSLUTELY nothing that will make me go back to game night. THE ONLY reason why I don't fully regret the past 4 years of my life was because it helped me realize that I have a second chance at being my own man and eventually making it to adulthood. I realize that I may be able to make it in whatever career I want and would not need to be a mouthpiece of my mother or anyone else in this world. And this is why I believe that even if TitsRP does not take me back, for the first time ever I do truly believe wholeheartedly that I did not leave the game night community to improve my chances of appeal.

SECTION II: THE AFTERMATH

 

The aftermath leaves us here. I was from game night till I was 16 and after leaving turned 17 shortly after. After not alting for 2 years, I decided to alt again to play and hopefully try and build a good reputation in the community. My first alt after since 2022 (nematodes) was made at an attempt to build relationshisp on the server and just have some time and an RPG to work towards while I kept losing weight through dieting. I enjoyed my experience on there and made quite a large sum of money and items, but my alt was eventually caught due to a leaked screenshot of me playing on the Minecraft server. This lead to rubik banning me no questions asked. For my most recent alt I created it a few months after that in about may, and did my best to mask my alt so that it could not be caught as I genuinely wanted to play the server since it was made clear rubik did not want to speak with me to discuss an unban. Due to me not masking my alt correctly, I was caught through a cookie on the forums which lead to rubik messaging me and informing me that I am not able to play. I had a long discussion with him and I would like to believe that he at the very least acknowledges my contributions and the fact I was able to maturely communicate my involvement without lying (like I would once do.) The reason for alting was not due to a lack of patience it was because (I believe at least) the best way to demonstrate how you have changed as a person is to actually communicate with people and open up to them, and I just desperately wanted to play the server. I have no reason to lie to deceive people on my alts because the reason I acted the way I did on my main was entirely due to external influence. 

 

I was a retard who applied for staff and honestly I think I did it because I genuinely got a little too comfortable and started to feel like I was back on the server and better than ever. I don't regret being staff on this alt because I partly also wanted to show people that I don't staff cancer anymore, I was fairly lenient with punishments and generally just wanted to give a good experience to the server since during the duration of my alt I noticed that staff were either struggling with ticket volume or otherwise unhappy with dealing with certain players sits on the server. I (as a very well rounded and unbiased individual who has seen it all) took upon the initiative to deal with these sits for no other reason than I just felt like people liked me for the first time ever. I was actually happy being in a community for once and I really enjoyed talking to the people of the server, even ones that my friends disliked. I would do things like base and VC with completely new players and help them gain money and get power on the server. 

I understand the implications of someone like me alting to join the staff team. If you allow anyone to do it, it sets the precedent that you can overstep boundaries and just apologize to get off scott free, but I would like to say that I have very unorthodox methods of persuasion. I believe that the best proof of me changing as a person is giving me a staff rank because all this bullshit started because I was drunk with power and some fat fuck on the internet who drank too much forced me into decision making. I mean , walter wasn't even the only one who pressured my decision making, papaskii at the time when I was a young modstaff was telling me to ban silver for 3 days for propsurf because silver "knew better". The only reason I don't just wish that my old self never existed is because for all great success stories, there must be a stage of turmoil and struggle that must be overcame to come back stronger and better than ever. 

 

SECTION III: THE REBUTTAL

 

I would say the thing that lands me in the most trouble is my honesty when it comes to certain situations. In fact, the whole reason why I wasn't allowed to appeal back in January was because I messaged captainT saying that I doxed rubik, and he sent the screenshot to sae who then posted in gen chat of titsrp discord. I of course was referring to the gif that i made which you could argue was a release of information, but my reasons for doing so were not to defame anyone or cause turmoil in the server it was entirely to gain the approval of a group. So to be fair, I would fully accept if RUBIK himself said he didn't forgive me for it, but he said that he simply withdraws any contribution to the situation so that's why I even made the appeal. To cover all my bases I asked the entire admin team (one by one) if I was permitted to create an appeal and gave a brief explanation of the situation. This was used against me which actually hurt me because I simply believed that I was just doing the right thing. What incentive is there to be an honest player if you are punished for doing so? I fully explained my involvement in the situation and in response was given an opposite reaction to what was given in DM's to me. You can argue that there was more information presented but that is simply not the case as the only people who've modified their responses did so after being neutral and simply seeing other players responses to the thread.

 

I am not asking for you to say what i did wasn't wrong I'm asking for a chance at redeeming myself. It is SO easy to reban me permanently if I fuck up and even take legal action against me as my information is both publicly available to rubik (he has my personal information to do with to take legal action if required) and has many connections which could seriously impact my future if he decided what I did was dangerous enough to his LLC. I had zero bans or warns on my alts and I followed the rules to a T.
 

SECTION IV: MY TESTIMONY

 

Booper and coba, I don't have involvement in doxing you coba but I did victim blame you on one of my DISCORD accounts (after it got banned from the discord server) by saying that quote: "Your reluctance to join game night was because you were a pussy that couldn't handle jokes made about your kid". Looking back, that is just a psychopathic thing to say and I believe if my parents saw that they'd genuinely think less of me because that's implying something terrible. You have said you do not care on this thread but if I am gonna burn bridges i might as well say it. I apologize for the comments i made, I didn't dox you, or legerbs, etc. Walter also had docs name and a linkedin profile with docs profile picture and had his full name on it which was pretty much how he gathered the information to make his done4.cyou posts. The only done4.cyou forums posts I made were the schizo ai babble ones, which were about the titsrp rat and drama in the discord. I was informed sugar found those funny and actually doesn't care. Anyway, this isn't ever happening again because I never really even believed in the first place I just did it because walter made me feel like I didn't have to change even my negative attributes to gain approval so I stayed fat and retarded and suffer I did for it while staying in a terrible friend group for the longest time.

 

Also, piklas was one of the people that reached out and convinced me to improve my body and mental health so I gotta thank him for that. I was in denial for a lot of my problems and I get that but Walter had me convinced the only way im getting back on titsrp is if I alted so alt I did. I consider myself fully repaired both physically and mentally although I still have trauma about the grooming I endured from walter while in game night. I had always figured I wasn't able to be groomed but this situation proved that I had the ability to fall victim to it like many others.
 
SECTION V: WHAT DOES THIS MEAN GOING FORWARD

I'm gonna be real I don't care if I'm staff or not. I liked taking tickets and being closely chill with the mod team and having an opinion on changes of the server, but it's not really necessary to me enough that I'd literally forfeit an unban or ban reduction in result of it. It's volunteer work at the end of the day and it's really only something you should do if you genuinely enjoy it, not because you believe you have a perceived notion of power which goes further than what is actually true. Anyone who is arguing on this thread for or against me, it's counterintuitive to what my goal should be. Everyone who has issues with me has either already contacted me or has echoed concerns of the other modstaff. I think that's completely fine because when I was a staff member I would do the same shit on comm removal appeals, like I would go and -1 someone like OG's appeal because "This guy is toxic because others say that he was toxic and I believe them" but I do believe my situation is different because I've literally went through the 7 stages of grief and many stages of denial. I truly believe that my story is different than others because I actually have evidence to prove a change. I for the first time feel comfortable confiding into people and feel like I am not a slave to anyone's thoughts or opinions. I am my own person.

 

It is honestly surprising to me that even people I just met for the first time on violent theft 2 are willing to give me the benefit of the doubt, and I even surprised myself with how much some people still are willing to give me a shot. I feel valued as a human being and that I can freely express my emotions and stay neutral with people of the server. I used to use autism as a get out of jail free card (as Doc McStubbins knows all to well) to justify my wrongdoing. As I've grown up I've realized how little people care about whatever victim card you put on yourself so I will leave you with this. I have outlined what I have done wrong, what I have learnt from it, why it happened, and how I wish I could do it differently. I will say with confidence that if this page of text at least makes one person willing to have a chat with me on my discord (fuel7329) I will be forever in your debt as you do not realize just how much being a part of this server means to me. Maybe I'm just stupid, maybe I have problems and that's why I feel so attached to this server. But I do know that it gives me an activity to play with my good friends who play on here, and it's a social network which I am familiar with the mechanics so it is easy to make new friends on it unlike other servers. 

 

Anyone who wants to tell me to find another server to play on should take a good look at the server list and realize that it's a loaded question. TitsRP is the only server that ticks all the boxes for an DarkRP server with RPG elements that extend beyond even the capabilities of Garry's mod. It's influenced many others (even permanently banned players) to pursue LUA development and create their own systems as what sugar's created here is quite remarkable and I've even tried to recreate many of his plugins like processors with the usage of LUA tutorials and tutoring from experienced devs. This is sorta off topic I know but it's just to say that his server still excites me to this day and I sorta sperg out at how much enjoyment I get playing on it and interacting with all the silly characters.

SECTION VI: CONCLUSION

 

Overall if you've made it this far I'm impressed. I've literally described the past like 4 years of my life to the best of my ability. If I've left out info i'm willing to clear up any questions. If you don't believe me, there is absolutely nothing anyone can do to convince you that I can be trusted. I have written 16 paragraphs to get unbanned from a GMod server. 

 

Anyway, much surprise to you I'm completely fine to tank a ban reduction, a staff ban, and a parole. I really don't care what you slam at me I just want this server to look forward to one day. I am a generally patient person I just hate when people refuse to listen to all the information before coming to a conclusion. Admin team if you've taken the time to read this, I thank you as it's taken me about 2 hours to write and my head hurts even looking at it. 

 

I am willing to create a discord call and have chats with people of the community.  

I find it insulting to compare me to haze because he's about 30 years old, and still chooses to negatively impact the server. If I found myself in such a position where my parents were my sole caretaker in my later life and all I did was play a Garry's mod game mode, I would probably resent myself and think less of myself as a person, and I would especially get egged on by my friend group and they'd possibly even quit speaking to me. Anyway to say for the fifth time thanks guys. I am forever in Rubik's debt for allowing this appeal to be posted even if it's decided that it's been too soon since I was banned for my alt to return. Either way, I hope to return someday as I genuinely have changed. 

SECTION VII: Addendum

 

Also, F___, to elaborate, I didn't leave game night cause I was banned, I left because literally everyone else was. Walter literally thought I would still stick around after he banned all my friends for bullshit reasons for like the third time in a row, but I decided to say "fuck that" and left everyone else to be his babysitter and wipe his fat ass. If you give me the chance to redeem myself.

[bone.]

2 hours ago, LeGerbs said:

I find this appeal to be a joke because anyone who has alted within the same month mind you and became staff would never have a chance at getting accepted.

I partially did this and got my removal accepted by the way!

[Community Removal]

I think fuel is doing the most mature thing he can do here and he is trying to make amends.

Now I have gathered what pros and cons that have been brought up and the counters according to staff and those affected/involved.

Please quote me if I am mistaken in anything 

 

Cons:

Fuel was the messenger for a large scale doxx on several players, which had significant mental impact on some that were affected according to the victims.

[Counter] is that it was almost 4 years ago and he was young and driven to do it based off of the circumstances of the people leading him to do it being his only friends in the whole world

 

Fuel alted several times during the ban, many being close to the time period of the initial ban to continue spreading negativity for walter. While the more recent one being violent theft 2

[Counter] In his most recent alting schemes he believed (from my understanding) it was the only way to find a way to make amends or prove himself to change.

 

Fuel may or may not still hold the information that he shared that led him to get banned

[Counter] This information is already out there and cannot be reversed according to one of the victims ive spoken to
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Pros:

Every single person who had interacted with fuel recently has said he is an entirely different person who is trying to repent for his

[Counter] This does not excuse his actions because the affects are still lasting to this day (according to victims)

 

If he were to come back and he decides to do these things again he can be dealt with very easily. And if he still wanted to continue repeating his previous actions he couldve done it on an alt account so why would he bother appealing to be welcomed back into the community.

[Counter] If he brings this information back to light the playerbase that did not know about this now will know and itll be shared to a whole new chunk of community who did not know before

 

There are counters to all the arguments that have been brought up here to my understanding and i feel we should bring anything that can be brought to light for or against fuels case, and then weigh all of the pros and cons before making any real decisions here. So I am withdrawing my vote and I will be a SOLID NEUTRAL until the community and staff team weigh EVERYTHING and make sure we have all of our facts straight

Edited September 18, 2024 by KKStoner

[Ember]

I was playing around the time of when Fuel and Gamenight was staff and their subsequent community removals (DO NOT REMOVE THIS COMMENT!!!!)

Im not particularly fond of any previous gamenight members (including Fuel) mainly because ive seen what they did and how psychotic their behavior was (and the aftermath of said behaviors)

But I do generally believe that Fuel has changed as a person and is not a danger to the community/the people in the community.

I think we all need to realize also Fuel was 13 when he first joined the server and was a kid that just entered middle school basically and was having to deal with not really having any friends alongside quarantine/COVID-19 Pandemic and also wanting attention from a father figure/someone to look up to, This is not trying to defend his behavior by any means but this is just my beliefs.

I also believe that Walter was the main factor in Fuels behavior like being toxic, making memes about doxxing, and just generally being unpleasant to interact with.