Fuel/violent theft2/nematodes comm removal appeal

[LeGerbs]

23 minutes ago, bugman said:

This is just blatantly a lie btw. Yahya alted and actively got toxicity bans on his main, as well as being generally toxic in the discord. Kashpaint also did the exact same thing

Fuel wasnt alting while actively saying and doing horrendous shit on his main account.

What about this guy who was banned 4 years ago and all of the staff team is saying no because he recently alted. Shouldn't you all be willing to give him the same courtesy? 

 

https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22000-banned-for-toxicity-in-2020/#comment-150960

 

 

****edit: He was banned in 2022. Point still stands.

 

If I had my way Fuel would be reduced to a 3 month ban for alting and a 6 month staff ban. Which I would be in full support of due to him alting because frankly I don't care if he was a good positive influence on this server while he alted. He still alted and it needs to go punished just as everyone else who alts.

Edited September 17, 2024 by LeGerbs

[Community Removal]

22 hours ago, LeGerbs said:

What about this guy who was banned 4 years ago and all of the staff team is saying no because he recently alted. Shouldn't you all be willing to give him the same courtesy? 

 

https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22000-banned-for-toxicity-in-2020/#comment-150960

 

 

****edit: He was banned in 2022. Point still stands.

 

If I had my way Fuel would be reduced to a 3 month ban for alting and a 6 month staff ban. Which I would be in full support of due to him alting because frankly I don't care if he was a good positive influence on this server while he alted. He still alted and it needs to go punished just as everyone else who alts.

But he was banned again for toxicity and then acted clueless to the toxicity . Fuel has at least made an effort to repair his reputation on here.  CHANGED TO NEUTRAL UNTIL ALL FACTORS ARE WEIGHED

 

there is nothing wrong with repairing your own reputation with a community even if its garrys mod

 

And we can just keep him on a short leash and if he acts out again we can take his history into account and act accordingly

Edited September 18, 2024 by KKStoner

[Doc McStubbins�]

A few of you have some good points. Let's start with the negatives, purely from my perspective;

 

You posted multiple images accusing me, rubik, and a couple others of being pedophiles, and released personally identifiable information of multiple people that could have affected their lives outside of TitsRP, to the point that one actually contacted a lawyer in regards to the situation. It was a dangerous and idiotic thing to do.

 

Before this happened, I very clearly remember you not being a pleasant person to be around at all. There are times I would just leave the server so I didn't have to deal with your shit. You were toxic, and followed around some unsavory individuals quite often. 

 

I saw someone mention something about a second chance. Sheriff, I think it was. I just want to clearly state, in the time I was staff, there were countless chances given. So many, in fact, that it led to a decision to just get you out of the community. That isn't something we did lightly. 

 

As for the positive side of this, you seem to have decent support from some of the community here. I have no idea how you are as a person now, and frankly, I don't care to. If anything anyone in this thread has said is true, then its up to the lot of you to make the decision. 

 

 

My final opinion? The person I knew when this happened was unstable, and a danger to others in the community. Hence your removal. The person I'm reading about now may be different, but you guys would know way better than I would. 

 

TL;DR, this is up to the community now(which I am no longer part of) to make the decision. I remain entirely neutral. 

 

PS, i really do hope you've changed. Your life will be a whole lot better if you drop the assholes, and fix your circle of influence. I wish you the best of luck, regardless of what happens here. 

[Chessmond]

Fuel has completely changed from his past self and i think he should get 1 more chance.

 

+1 for unban

+1 for 3 month probation ( similar to what bone received)

-1 for staff ban

[Succ The Zucc]

1 hour ago, Doc McStubbins⢠said:

My final opinion? The person I knew when this happened was unstable, and a danger to others in the community. Hence your removal. The person I'm reading about now may be different, but you guys would know way better than I would.

There's a lot I could and would quote here if it wasn't so long. But in short yes, I would otherwise agree entirely with what you have to say which is why it took me having to have a conversation with him to even remotely consider it. The thing with Walter however does check out tho those bans did actually happen and I was far enough away to just watch it happen. I legit think that what Fuel is saying here is true. If he's unbanned and starts to go back to the way it was I'll make sure that shit stops in it's tracks

[Rubik]

I want to echo Doc's sentiment here. As a victim of your toxic behavior and doxxin,. I know you were a kid at the time and making poor choices but you're still a kid and still making poor choices (alting & violating our trust by applying for staff while banned). The things that you did to me and my friends are the reasons why people eventually distances themselves from the communities, servers, and friend groups they love. I am a very private person and what you guys did to me makes me feel like I can't trust anyone. It still affects some of the victims to this day. You should be held accountable for that.

 

As I mentioned in DMs, I will leave this up to the community because what's done is done and there's really no reason or benefit to you doing it again. That being said, I will never trust you and I do not want to be your friend. My life would be much easier if you and anyone involved in that group are not here.

 

Another point to consider is that knowing what fuel did, if we unban him what's to stop 500 more idiots who did the same thing from appealing as well? Maybe people that don't have such strong ties in the community.. Will they get unbanned as well? Where do we draw the line on doxxing? Only when someone got hurt irl, loses their job, or harmed themselves?

[Grok]

As much as we were cool when we interacted, you did fuck up really bad which warranted a comm ban as far as I heard from the replies on this appeal.

 

True Neutral, you are a good person but you did alt.

[Money Man]

I never got to play with you on your main, I joined too late for that. I’ve heard about the things you did I and agree with rubik that the things you have done have left a lasting impact on the community. Long-lasting members of the server will not forget about this and you will have to live with the consequences of your actions during your time on the server. People have lives outside of titsrp and you need to recognize that doxxing, in any shape or form, is not acceptable or the slightest bit funny.

 

With that being said, while you were alting as violent theft you were only a good person when I interacted with you. You would help me out and you would always be friendly when interacting with you on the server. You let me base with you and your buddies which helped me immensely in the long run getting my money up and finding new ways to acquire ents. Because of you, I have stronger connections with other people in the server. Along with this, you were a good staff member as well. You kept your sit count decently high and helped other staff members and players.

 

But, your previous actions should not be forgotten because you are now a good dude. You seriously fucked up and hurt multiple people on this server which again, has had long-lasting consequences for you and those people.

 

I am willing to give you another chance at playing on the server. But, since you were alting while comm-removed you should not be unbanned immediately.

 

+1 for ban reduction to 3 months for alting while main is banned.

 

+1 for 3 month player toxicity probation. One thing and you’re gone again.

 

+1 for permanent staff ban.

 

I sincerely hope you have changed and you will not fuck up again.

Edited September 18, 2024 by Money Man
Added +1 for probation

[You]

After consulting with Rubik and the admins, i will be against this appeal. To accept this would set the precedents that our comm removals mean nothing. 
 

Additionally, you did alt while banned. 
 

-1

Edited September 18, 2024 by Riv

[Guest]

as someone who was given a 2nd chance in the community after being comm removed and alting a bunch I think that saying someone shouldn’t be given a 2nd chance just because they were comm removed is a bit unfair. fuels proven that he’s changed so I don’t see the harm in giving him a probationary period and allowing him to return. 

+1 for unban
+1 for 3 month probation

Edited September 18, 2024 by chud