Fuel/violent theft2/nematodes comm removal appeal

[Bajan Canadian]

As one of the few players on the staff team who semi knew fuel before his ban and knows him after his ban I can say without a doubt he's changed a ton. He grew up in a lot of ways which leads me to believe he deserves a second chance. As for any staff bans I think they are completely unnecessary for the reasons annex mentioned (no misconduct while being staff).

 

However I believe the best course of action would be for fuel to be put on a 3 month probation  where any infractions of player toxicity would get him recomremoved (you would be allowed to staff while on probation). 

 

+1 for unban

+1 for 3 month probation ( similar to what bone received)

-1 for staff ban

[bone.]

It would make me a hypocrite to criticize anyone for alting on the staff team as I am one to have done so before, even getting to Senior Mod.

You've shown yourself to be way better than you were back in '20, where you were unfortunately surrounded by a crowd of strange entities. I think you'd fit right back into the server.

+1 for unban.

[1-800-Suicide]

Hello. I have spoken to fuel a few months ago where he told me that back when he was doing all the toxic stuff he was manipulated/peer pressured/groomed by the people he was hanging around online. I told him back then to cut them off and he would be better off without them (something very few of the staff did) and it seems to me he has moved on and grown as a person.

 

Evidence of me reaching out to fuel when he was doing toxic stuff: 

 

He has cut them off and isnt doing internet pedophile toxicity to my knowledge anymore

[LeGerbs]

Whether or not you were the person who doxxed me, doc, or Kdawg you were still in a close friendship with the people who were. There was a day when myself, Rubik and another player were in a call getting streamed the game night discord and we saw all of our faces with "articles" calling us pedophiles. (Rubik can confirm this) keep in mind this was a couple years back and you were still actively friends with those people. 

 

If it wasn't specifically you who did it. Fine. However that doesn't alleviate the fact that you could've stood up for what was right. I remember always defending you when you were bullied as a young staff in 2020 and always trying to be kind to you. Only to see 2 years later what you had become. I can sympathize with the fact you were an actual child at that time and could've been groomed and now have changed. 

 

For those of you who don't know this group had pictures of people's actual faces with articles written about them calling them pedophiles and other disgusting names along with fake stories of each of them. Fuel while as he claims didn't do the doxxing of players I can almost 100% bet took part in writing and laughing at those articles. 

 

I'll stay neutral.  Only for the fact that there's no evidence he wrote those articles

Edited September 17, 2024 by LeGerbs

[sharkybarky2000]

On 9/16/2024 at 6:29 PM, DeSantis said:

In-Game Name

Fuel

Your Steam ID

76561198337178309

Why were you banned or warned?

DISCLAIMER ***I WAS TOLD BY RUBIK TO USE THIS ACCOUNT TO APPEAL, I WAS ALSO GIVEN PERMISSION TO MAKE AN APPEAL BY THE ADMIN TEAM***

Although my initial ban was a requested removal (related to the game night and walter situation) I was rebanned from community for being associated with Walter and game night at the time. While being closely associated I did things such as post a GIF with server owner Rubik face and name on it in the discord, which is the main reason why I was banned. I was not the person who actively searched for doxx against Rubik or doing so to defame his character, what I did (the youtube video skits and face gif) was a childish thing I did a while ago that I have since learnt from. A lot of the other things which were due to my association with bad actors, were understandably pinned against me, although I understand being lumped in with that I was too dumb and unpredictable at the time.

I was also not involved in the drama that had inevitably caused former owner KDawg Sugar Tits to step down. The proof is that I was already disassociated and had left the Game Night discord by then, and I believe that there were other players (who I will not mention to prevent drama from ensuing) who had a direct hand in it. I am sure that if you asked a high ranking staff member who's played at the time they will likely clear up the situation. As far as I'm aware, Sugar didn't have the same feelings of animosity toward me as Rubik had, it was more that he saw me as a stupid kid who was more trouble than was worth to let back into the community.
 

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned?

I should be unbanned because I have grown as a person since then. I have realized the error of my ways and am hoping to be accepted back as a better person. I consider myself along with the people who were affected by that group to be abuse victims of a narcissistic individual. Everyone who was once an adversary or passerby to Walter or in Game Night discord have turned against him due to his batshit insane tendencies. I don't look back fondly at my experiences in that server, aside from the friendships and character development that formed as a result of how things played out. I've since made amends with all the people who I was once biased against on the server.

**I will also reiterate that I have NO involvement in any of the alleged doxing of information to LeGerbs and Cobaselic, and any other players who've claimed (or people not around when I played may claim) that I released or assisted in releasing their information to the public domain. The likelihood is that a newer player closely related to the player, with a motive leaked that information, rather than someone who literally has not interacted or spoken to the players in question for well over 3 years. I've brought up the main reasons for my community removal which were that I couldn't be trusted after the people I chose to associate with.**

I've since spoken to Rubik, and I'd like to think that we've cleared the skeletons in the closet. I believe we now share similar feelings about the situation we were both a part of. However, the outcome decided by the admin team was that I may appeal to give the community a chance to weigh in and give a balanced opinion. Had my intentions been to be malicious toward him, he and (along with many other staff) came to realize I still haven't done it, and never plan to. I have absolutely no intentions of causing drama in the server ala haze, I just wanna play on the server with my friends and have a good time. On each of my alts I've shown that I can be a respectable staff member and even after facing the ban on Desantis/violent theft, I was still pleased at the outcome.

I always tried to demonstrate that I could be a positive influence on users of the community. I've had (arguably) a way better reputation amongst players on alts like nematodes and violent theft 2, where I became moderator to fulfill the duties and was well regarded among my fellow staff members and players alike. I thank you for taking the time to read my appeal and hopefully take it into consideration. Thank you to Tenny, Chesmond, Terry, Lavender, Heosphoros, TapWater69, KKStoner, Ironfish1, Wanted, bone for vouching for me as a player, and Rubik for giving me the ability to appeal my ban and have a chat to clear the skeletons in the closet.

That is all for now thank you for reading my essay.

 

Who warned/banned you?

Miles/DrunkRaccoon

How long were you warned or banned for?

Indefinitely

At my current time, I'm Neutral, leaning towards -1.

I feel under any situation this is unacceptable behavior but after responses from others it sounds you have redeemed yourself as much as its rare I see it doesn't mean its impossible as for now I lean towards -1 but I'm willing to hear this out.

Edited September 18, 2024 by sharkybarky2000
Mod Convo part 2

[Opila Bird]

I've known fuel for a long time, for better and for worse. When I started playing titsrp regularly again right after covid started, rad and I we're looking for players to base with as we did not have much recent experience and hadn't become friends with many of the people we are now. One of these people that we started basing and vcing with was fuel, around mid april 2020. When we first met him, he was recently made tmod, and was very obviously excited about it, always having a drive for the server and a care for the community even back then. Despite this, he was demoted shortly after. I believe his demote was for mishandling of a sit/sits, but mostly as he was just seen as a dumb kid, so it was better to just let him keep playing as a non-staff.

Soon after, I believe in an attempt to change his image, he started pushing himself to act a lot more seriously, becoming a major rules lawyer. To me, though, as a 16 year old who just wanted to have fun on gmod and be able to minge, this just made him seem like a pompous asshole, so many of us stopped hanging out with him. This change also led to him becoming friends with various other titsrp players, both old and new, and one of these major players was walter the assaulter.

For those who don't know, walter is just a terrible person, simply put, and from talking with fuel I know that he regrets ever interacting with walter, much less being close friends with him for as long as they were. Fuel has made it very clear to rubik, me, many others, and even walter himself that he never wants to interact with him again, and that the time he spent with him was a very dark, negative time for him. Saying this, I do understand why fuel was in the position he was. When he met walter covid was in full swing and where he lived it was impossible to go outside. Alongside this, he was ostracized out if many groups in titsrp for quite frankly being annoying. When you have a close friends group, and everyone else makes it clear they don't want you, it can blind you to the wrong-doings of that group. Saying this, there are many, many things done by walter, and other gamenight members that should have pushed fuel to leave them earlier, but he had only just turned 16 when he did finally leave gamenight. Do you remember all the dumb shit you did before you were 16 and didn't realize until later on the mistakes you made, or how severe they were?

If you asked me in the past if I would want fuel unbanned, I would have NEVER said yes, but I have personally seen him grow a lot as a person, and improve his character as he is growing up. I will also remind you all that fuel is still just now 17, the things he did were done by a dumb teenager, and many of the actions he is blamed for simply weren't done by him. This doesn't change that they did happen, as he was still a bystander for many, which is why he has tried to apologize to all that he has done wrong to. Along with these apologies, I have personally seen him change greatly the past few months and know that he can, and will do better in the future.

+1 for unban

[newest player]

3 hours ago, bugman said:

I've known fuel for a long time, for better and for worse. When I started playing titsrp regularly again right after covid started, rad and I we're looking for players to base with as we did not have much recent experience and hadn't become friends with many of the people we are now. One of these people that we started basing and vcing with was fuel, around mid april 2020. When we first met him, he was recently made tmod, and was very obviously excited about it, always having a drive for the server and a care for the community even back then. Despite this, he was demoted shortly after. I believe his demote was for mishandling of a sit/sits, but mostly as he was just seen as a dumb kid, so it was better to just let him keep playing as a non-staff.

Soon after, I believe in an attempt to change his image, he started pushing himself to act a lot more seriously, becoming a major rules lawyer. To me, though, as a 16 year old who just wanted to have fun on gmod and be able to minge, this just made him seem like a pompous asshole, so many of us stopped hanging out with him. This change also led to him becoming friends with various other titsrp players, both old and new, and one of these major players was walter the assaulter.

For those who don't know, walter is just a terrible person, simply put, and from talking with fuel I know that he regrets ever interacting with walter, much less being close friends with him for as long as they were. Fuel has made it very clear to rubik, me, many others, and even walter himself that he never wants to interact with him again, and that the time he spent with him was a very dark, negative time for him. Saying this, I do understand why fuel was in the position he was. When he met walter covid was in full swing and where he lived it was impossible to go outside. Alongside this, he was ostracized out if many groups in titsrp for quite frankly being annoying. When you have a close friends group, and everyone else makes it clear they don't want you, it can blind you to the wrong-doings of that group. Saying this, there are many, many things done by walter, and other gamenight members that should have pushed fuel to leave them earlier, but he had only just turned 16 when he did finally leave gamenight. Do you remember all the dumb shit you did before you were 16 and didn't realize until later on the mistakes you made, or how severe they were?

If you asked me in the past if I would want fuel unbanned, I would have NEVER said yes, but I have personally seen him grow a lot as a person, and improve his character as he is growing up. I will also remind you all that fuel is still just now 17, the things he did were done by a dumb teenager, and many of the actions he is blamed for simply weren't done by him. This doesn't change that they did happen, as he was still a bystander for many, which is why he has tried to apologize to all that he has done wrong to. Along with these apologies, I have personally seen him change greatly the past few months and know that he can, and will do better in the future.

+1 for unban

I couldn't have said it better. Fuel got himself involved with the wrong people and he's still paying for it years later. I can second I used to really not like Fuel, but over the past years he has shown me he is not the same player many of you remember. While I do think he shouldn't have alted, him causing zero issues on an alt and sometimes even staff as an alt, I believe that his behavior is very telling of the kind of person he is now. 

+1 for unban 

[LeGerbs]

You know what I'm gonna call this bullshit out right now. How are the same staff that are saying "oh he alted but he was a really good staff member during his alting so he should be unbanned because he's changed" saying opposite shit to people who aren't their friends? This is the literal definition of bias and it's bullshit. 

 

Keep in mind I'm still Neutral for Fuel as a part of me feels bad since he was a kid who was groomed by a terrible human being. As for the staff stop being bias for your friend it's a shitty look for the staff team. 

 

My examples are Yahya who became staff and did a great job on his alt as did fuel, and Kashpaint when he alted on discord and didn't cause any problems. I'm also gonna say both of these players Yahya and Kash fuckups pale in comparison to what fuel did in the past whether or not he was a kid.

 

Fuel has also been alting for years and has been banned numerous times for it.

 

 

https://imgur.com/a/yl0s8YV

Edited September 17, 2024 by LeGerbs

[Opila Bird]

2 minutes ago, LeGerbs said:

My examples are Yahya who became staff and did a great job on his alt as did fuel, and Kashpaint when he alted on discord and didn't cause any problems. I'm also gonna say both of these players Yahya and Kash fuckups pale in comparison to what fuel did in the past whether or not he was a kid.

This is just blatantly a lie btw. Yahya alted and actively got toxicity bans on his main, as well as being generally toxic in the discord. Kashpaint also did the exact same thing

Fuel wasnt alting while actively saying and doing horrendous shit on his main account.

Edited September 17, 2024 by bugman

[sheriff]

After Discussion with peers and varying sets of Opinions. My Conclusion is that it would be Just to give you a second chance. In the hopes that previous behaviours are not repeated, and im confident in that outcome enough to be:

+1 for unban

However, the thought of Alting and joining the staff team, in my opinion is quite deceptive in nature. and makes me question Trustworthiness as a whole. Different to others yet similar.  Im in favour for a

+1 for a 3m staff suspension

In the hopes that we can get to know the "real" you. and make a correct assessment.

 

Edited September 18, 2024 by sheriff