Warned for "Kill-Baiting"

[Blacnova]

I honestly see where @cobaselic is coming from on this. It's reasonable, and I've seen many times before, for players to have ents/raidables in a closed off area of a base alongside a "public"/rp portion. In some ways, it sounds like a loophole, but at the same time it follows the same logic of having guests in your base. You don't need to warn guests to leave before killing them, just like you don't have to kill them if you simultaneously start getting raided by a different party.

 

Considering it's in District 1, and the player wasn't making any motion to raid, an advert/vc warning probably would've been nice in accordance with public base rules. However, the rules do indeed say that a public base must explicitly say "Public Base", which is why he's also not granted the protections of having that status. To require him to give a warning to players to leave, I think, is unnecessary, and they can very easily just not come back after dying.

 

The bigger issue is that the "victim" was repeatedly coming back to the base just to be killed. Is he ok?

 

EDIT: Upon rethinking it, considering such a base is in District 1 directly across from PD, you really should have warned him in chat or e-menu before killing him. The probability of him coming back and the situation leading to a mass NLR sit (which is exactly what happened) is just too high. While it would have been perfectly okay for you to do this in any other district, it's just not something that current guidelines allow in District 1.

Edited October 20, 2025 by Blacnova

[cobaselic]

Just now, Kert Kobean said:

If it's not a public base then that's perfectly fine, but you can't leave your doors permanently unlocked and planted in front of a high traffic area. The only real fix you'd have to make to how you operate is keep the front doors locked and probably take down the sign. You can still control who enters that way whilst maintaining it as a "private base" for all intents and purposes.

Where in the rules does it say that. When has this ever been a thing. Having open doors makes it a public base? Then why is there a rule that says a public base must have a public base sign?

[cobaselic]

Just now, Blacnova said:

I honestly see where @cobaselic is coming from on this. It's reasonable, and I've seen many times before, for players to have ents/raidables in a closed off area of a base alongside a "public"/rp portion. In some ways, it sounds like a loophole, but at the same time it follows the same logic of having guests in your base. You don't need to warn guests to leave before killing them, just like you don't have to kill them if you simultaneously start getting raided by a different party.

 

Considering it's in District 1, and the player wasn't making any motion to raid, an advert/vc warning probably would've been nice in accordance with public base rules. However, the rules do indeed say that a public base must explicitly say "Public Base", which is why he's also not granted the protections of having that status. To require him to give a warning to players to leave, I think, is unnecessary, and they can very easily just not come back after dying.

 

The bigger issue is that the "victim" was repeatedly coming back to the base just to be killed. Is he ok?

He was given a warning for MassNLR

[Succ The Zucc]

I'm done discussing it since I've already said everything I needed to say on it. I'll start on the votes with a -1 From me. In the future listen to what both Henchy and Kert said in their responses. What they said is both the correct thing to do and what is current with basing rules for districts since they've been added. Do /advert warns to make them leave or E menu warn them for next time.

[cobaselic]

Let's make the rule "any base with an open door in district 1 is a Public Base"

[cobaselic]

1 minute ago, Succ The Zucc said:

I'm done discussing it since I've already said everything I needed to say on it. I'll start on the votes with a -1 From me. In the future listen to what both Henchy and Kert said in their responses. What they said is both the correct thing to do and what is current with basing rules for districts since they've been added. Do /advert warns to make them leave or E menu warn them for next time.

Okay, but if anybody raids my base it should be treated as a public base even though there's no public base sign.

Edited October 20, 2025 by cobaselic

[Miami mint vape]

@cobaselicif your base was inside of district 1 a couple of things apply

You must Warn the players before killing them due to it being a high traffic area and being inside district 1

 

You killing the person can be seen as rdm or kill baiting pick your poison. Nonetheless i dont appreciate your attitude regarding this entire situation and for all this i am

 

-1 for warn to be overturned

 

after going over the rules again to be honest coba isn't in the wrong here the base isn't per say a public base due to the final reason it doesn't have a sign stating so. 

 

For example if the base was raided would we treat it as a public base? probably not 

 

I can admit my mistakes here and I'm going to be 

 

+1 for removal of warn

Edited October 20, 2025 by Deltarino

[LeGerbs]

Dude a killbase is completely different than someone owning an rp building. Coba has a base that allows him to pick and choose who's allowed in said base which is totally fine by rule standards, however if he made that base and killed everyone who stepped foot in it that's a kill bait base. The downside to coba not having a public base sign is that anyone at any time can raid the shit out the base and Coba cant do anything about it (Rule wise) I see no indication in this entire report that screams he was killing everyone who entered.

[Blue.]

Trespassing makes you KOS. This means if you trespass someone's house you will die. If it is a public base, you must be warned to leave first. - This rule applies to all bases including an RP base. If someone is being problematic they can be gunned down without warning. If you do this on a case by case basis and kill those specifically who cause you any issues it is NOT RDM. Obviously if you were doing it willy nilly it could be seen as RDM but one single person is fine.

 

1 hour ago, Deltarino said:

@cobaselicif your base was inside of district 1 a couple of things apply

You must Warn the players before killing them due to it being a high traffic area and being inside district 1

 

You killing the person can be seen as rdm or kill baiting pick your poison. Nonetheless i dont appreciate your attitude regarding this entire situation and for all this i am

 

 

This is not a rule the only rules about high-traffic areas are:

"Do not build on the street or sidewalk in a way that limits or restricts the movement of vehicles or players, or in high-traffic areas (such as near PD)"

and

Your loitering sign may extend to the sidewalk in front of your base unless your base is in a high-traffic area or in District 1. 

 

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Kill-Baiting would be if I had a sign that said "free guns inside" and then killed everybody that came in. Having a sign that says Pizzeria does not make it a public base. It does not have a public base sign.

Correct - or if you were to make a Pizzeria and kill every single person that walked inside - which is not the case here.

 

2 hours ago, Succ The Zucc said:

I'm done discussing it since I've already said everything I needed to say on it. I'll start on the votes with a -1 From me. In the future listen to what both Henchy and Kert said in their responses. What they said is both the correct thing to do and what is current with basing rules for districts since they've been added. Do /advert warns to make them leave or E menu warn them for next time.

I think you misunderstand what henchy was trying to say. To clarify killing one person who was MNLRing isnt kill baiting. It is still a private base and IDK where all of this rule confusion is coming from. 

Killing someone you don't like or someone who is causing problems in some way in your private building (RP base/cafe/Pizza place/whatever) is allowed in any and all districts. Abusing this could be considered kill-baiting if you're killing tons of people but this particular case is not abusing the ruling. 



+1 for a warn removal here as coba was not in the wrong. Tom Pearl was talking smack, got mag dumped, and kept coming back. By our rules he was KOS on the NLR alone.
















 

[Henchy]

To add onto Blues post.

You essentially cannot have a base with the sole purpose of killing anyone who comes through your door that's all, a prime example of this is someone making a gun store but then shooting everyone that walks in and the claiming "they were in my base", I was stating that if someone is being annoying its best to warn them, but you don't have to warn people that are in your base to kill them unless there is a public base sign outside your doors (could've worded my last post a bit better.) 

 

I've seen people own gun stores in district 1 with their doors open saying "no cops allowed" and they just KOS cops that walk in. 

 

Considering the person, you kept killing was just coming back for more I'll also be +1 for a warn removal 

 

Edited October 20, 2025 by Henchy