{GN} Isaac Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) (Admin on loa). I wasn’t involved in the vote obviously since I’m in loa. But wanted to throw my opinion rq. I stand by my comments in the other appeals first ban was stupid. At this point whatever the community \ staff team want I’m okay with. If you do get unbanned I hope you have changed. But I believe there should be a vote that involves community/ staff to decide if you can come back. That’s just me tho Edited January 3 by {GN} Isaac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungWang Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 From what we the staff team have gathered there is no proof that sticks and the way the team went about your removal 2 years ago is not how we would have done it nowadays. There are members of the team that say you are a horrible guy and this monster who makes sits on every little thing and bend tf outta rules (good thing we have a rule about loopholes) and you were apparently so bad that you made staff/vips alike leave the server. if you are this bad why hasn't it been documented? What I think is there are two big possibilities. Either you are as bad as you have been made out to be and the team didn't have proper organization of the situation at the time. or you were not as bad as people say but just enough to get people thinking about a perma ban. regardless of either the fact remains that there is no solid proof of what you did, only things about you is hearsay by about 15-20% of the community and satire in your steam bio. personally I am a +1 for your unban seeing how there is no solid proof of your malice, and although This is true there are other truths like how alot of people seem to hate the thought of you returning to the community. If you do have this appeal accepted you must be mindful of what it entails, everyone will be watching you and its fine to report people for breaking the rules but at the same time it is just game and try not to get so caught up in all the little details. Try to enjoy it and not ruin it for other like you supposedly did before your removal, and try to see that not everyone deserves to be smacked with the full extent of the law. #Education > Punishment again I am a +1 for unban for those who don't wanna read this whole thing. Best regards, Mr.Wang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tene Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 11 minutes ago, Hung Wang said: if you are this bad why hasn't it been documented? If he is not bad why do u think the community (exstaff that were invovled + general comm members etc) all want him banned and are pissed that u guys want him unbanned? ''hearsay from 15-20% of the community'' when have you EVER seen that large amount of the community come together to go against someone. Notice this was also 80% of the community WHEN HE WAS UNBANNED and playing. The 20% of the community are 90% of the community that were playing when he did and knew him. Its ok man every person has all come together to lie about the same thing for the last 2+ years. it was a decision that he is not being allowed to ban appeal and can never return, no one saved the evidence since the decision was made and it was put into a staff-decision-making channel that was deleted for no reason. education > punishment yet he has 3 pages of negative steam comments in the last 3 months and has 10k hours on gmod at the time of being banned on titsrp. how much education do u wanna give him? education attempt (he was in vcs aswell and somehow made every staff WANT HIM BANNED when he was being told not to continue doing this) reply to my whole post not parts of it (if u do) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booper Scooper Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 This is relevant to the current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Recently we’ve given other community removals the chance to appeal, so to be fair I did say that i wouldn’t be opposed to you having the same opportunity. Do I think you’re capable of rejoining the community and not causing issues? Yeah probably. Is it worth all the possible backlash from the community and staff that have interacted with you in the past? IMO its not. I don’t think you’re a terrible dude, it’s just probably not worth the drama to allow you back in the community unless we can all agree unanimously that this ban was unfair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze_of_dream Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Rubik said: Recently we’ve given other community removals the chance to appeal, so to be fair I did say that i wouldn’t be opposed to you having the same opportunity. Do I think you’re capable of rejoining the community and not causing issues? Yeah probably. Is it worth all the possible backlash from the community and staff that have interacted with you in the past? IMO its not. I don’t think you’re a terrible dude, it’s just probably not worth the drama to allow you back in the community unless we can all agree unanimously that this ban was unfair. fair but i think its quite comical that the "older staff" are causing more drama then what can clearly be seen by current staff lol, Some of these same users are still doing the good old "dont care, ur an asshole, -1 forever" which imo is really childish Edited January 3 by Haze_of_dream 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, Haze_of_dream said: fair but i think its quite comical that the "older staff" are causing more drama then what can clearly be seen by current staff lol, Some of these same users are still doing the good old "dont care, ur an asshole, -1 forever" which imo is really childish You're actually dumb aren't you? You have 4 days 6 hours as your total time on the server while I personally have been here for years. (I no lifed over 100 days played) People shit on me too for being cringy from time to time with bad takes but you caused in less than 5 days total on the server to have the ENTIRE community to be against you. I don't think you truly understand how hard that is. We allow furries of all "people" to be on this server yet they can't even manage to garner as much shit as you have. There's a difference between having a bad opinion because you may have "changed" in your eyes, but for you there is a special place in peoples minds when you make them hate you as much as you did with as little time as you have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze_of_dream Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Succ The Zucc said: You're actually dumb aren't you? You have 4 days 6 hours as your total time on the server while I personally have been here for years. (I no lifed over 100 days played) People shit on me too for being cringy from time to time with bad takes but you caused in less than 5 days total on the server to have the ENTIRE community to be against you. I don't think you truly understand how hard that is. We allow furries of all "people" to be on this server yet they can't even manage to garner as much shit as you have. There's a difference between having a bad opinion because you may have "changed" in your eyes, but for you there is a special place in peoples minds when you make them hate you as much as you did with as little time as you have here. you say the entire community, but community members within this appeal disagree with you, if you wish to reinforce your own opinion that's fine, and i don't even know how to respond to that entire comment from immediately starting with an insult to comparing me to the furry community ngl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I will not yap and write an entire essay (and repeat what has already been said by other staff members) I don't know the entire story, however, there is an ounce of proof of you being toxic and the proof relevant does not warrant a com removal in my opinion. I will be a +1 for your unban, however a 1-3 month probationary period & you promise not to report staff for not taking your sits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeromeASF Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) The argument of "there is no proof" is retarded. There clearly was proof but it was deleted (as shown from Tene's post). I personally don't think you have changed at all. My "proof" for that is from the recent steam comments on your profile which you immediately hid once the SS of them was posted. (And yes, we should take into account those comments from outside the server since they paint a picture of how you still act). Succ also makes a great point. You were able to cause so many issues with a whole 4 days play time. If that doesn't put into perspective how much people disliked, you/how toxic you were idk what will. You are a cancer who moves from server to server and causes issues on every single one. -1 stay banned. Edited January 3 by Terrry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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