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1 minute ago, Mav McStubbins said:

I do not want you back here from what you did in December of 2019. You were toxic as heck, you joined the 'Whores' discord server and started mass pinging me and spamming me the hard R.

Never again do I want you here, you're gonna have to change my mind.

 

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This was 8 months, ago, I can assure you this type of behavior wont happen again.

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Must I reiterate that you constantly harassed me for months and several other staff members at the time which then led to other players. It wasn’t like this was a single event of just extreme toxicity. I’m willing to unblock you to try and hash things out. But do remember in order for other players in the community and for an actual investigation to be brought together I had to literally step down from my position on the staff team. 

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6 minutes ago, Mav McStubbins said:

You may have changed but that moment hasn't.

Not gonna give my opinion on this appeal as a whole, I was not particularly involved in the ordeal, but that's the point of an appeal. He is here to try prove to us that he changed, and will be better in the future.

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I was never really affected by you at all. You were actually pretty nice to me even after you left my gang. Although I was chill with you, staff members that have resigned weren't. We had a lot of complaints about you. I'm going to stay neutral on this because I don't want to sound biased and you did cause some major problems in the past with others. I do wish you the best of luck of being unbanned OG Bot 🙂

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Replying to give more information that has been missed.

 

Many staff are talking about "second chance", but if you look into OG's history he has been perma banned 3 times (counting this one) one for exploiting, second for alting third for toxicity + temporary ban for toxicity.

 

Sources :  

https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/6125-dumbass-appeal/ PERMA

https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/11573-og-bot-is-back/ PERMA

https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/13272-ogs-appeal/page/2/ TEMP

 

I have nothing again'st you OG, but if you were honest you should of stated these and not played the "This player had many chances so why can't I get one" because it's the 3rd chance you are getting. I also remember when you were alting and spammed the n word. (had it for some reasons in my screenshots)

 

If you would of included these, I would agree to unban you because the only way I think we can know if someone is honest is if he isn't hiding anything and is putting everything he did bad on the front of his appeal no matter how bad it was. Because this way we can know you actually have remorse.

 

I hope this can help some staff with their decisions.

 

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25 minutes ago, SEWER OVERLORD said:

If the man is willing to "oops left those permas out" then he's going to continue performing toxicity in another form. Anyone can say they change and ask for forgiveness and another chance. But if the offense is severe enough, then there should be no chance at all. Gosh shouldn't have been unbanned period due to me stating "No appeals." But that happened anyway and guess where he ended up. 

 

I didn't leave out my perma bans out on purpose, those were from 3 years ago, this appeal is about my ban I received 2 months ago, not 3 years ago.

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3 hours ago, OG BOT Dumbass said:

Zek, the screenshot you provided was something I did 3 years ago... and those 2 links from the perma ban appeal were from the same ban, just 2 attempts.

Doesn't matter how long it was, you purposely didn't included them so you had a better chance to get unbanned. But you added the "This guy got banned 4 times and got unbanned" to cover up if someone actually found your perma ban appeals. 

 

The reason I am saying it doesn't matter how long it was, is because when we are talking about perma bans it's offenses that are severe and shouldn't be left out when you want to get unbanned from another perma ban. + It is kind of dishonest to let staff think it's your "second chance" while you know it isn't

 

Also, I am not sure these are the same appeals because in the first appeal I see no where stating you were alting and it is more reasonable to assume that you alted after getting perma banned from exploit and got caught.

 

I will say it one more time, OG, if you want to get unbanned please try to be honest. This is the best tip coming from someone who has been in your shoes. 

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