Mod loopholing

[Tempykilledher]

19 minutes ago, Tene said:As for guidelines / what it actually falls under:
 

• Building in a place you do not own to give yourself any form of advantage is a warn or ban. 
• If involved in a raid this could be considered exploiting and can result in up to a 30 day ban.

Whilst the area he's building in he owns, the advantage being gained is in a place he does not (another persons base), so it falls under this.
 

If I one, own the building, and two no raid occurred after the placement of the props, then how does this situation go against said rule?  Like i have said, theres was no pvp altercations after the placement of the props therefore there is no “advantage” to gain, You also mentioned, me seeing if the raid was “worth it”, which would not be a motive for me to do this if that was the intent because i was already in the base beforehand with  Xanax. Also “Noticing that you're zoomed in directly at the base and not the street view that you said it was made for Tempy.......“ The images provided are not my point of view so i im confused on where the evidence of me zooming into his base is.

 

 

[Tene]

2 minutes ago, Tempykilledher said:

If I one, own the building, and two no raid occurred after the placement of the props, then how does this situation go against said rule?

loophole

/ˈluːphəʊl/

noun

1. 1.

   an ambiguity or inadequacy in the law or a set of rules.

You are not allowed to use your own one-way props to look through another player's base dupe. Im not sure how this is a hard concept. I believe you are aware of this too and that is why your reasoning when asked was that it was ''to look at the street''. I explained how it breaks that guideline despite not word for word breaking it. We are not allowing people to make one-ways to look through people's bases, we are not allowing people to put camera's through/in other peoples bases. It provides an advantage, even if that advantage was not abused, and is clearly not allowed via common sense.

 

3 minutes ago, Tempykilledher said:

Also “Noticing that you're zoomed in directly at the base and not the street view that you said it was made for Tempy.......“ The images provided are not my point of view so i im confused on where the evidence of me zooming into his base is.

https://imgur.com/AZVWXvn

The literal first image of his evidence. Im not sure why you're trying to dispute the actual use of the one-way and pretending that you werent looking through his base with it. You are a mod. Why are you loopholing to do this?

[Tempykilledher]

1 hour ago, Opila Bird said:

  

Do you have any clips of him doing this?

 

My question for tempy is, if this is a public base why do you need a no collided one way when you can just leave the roof open, unless the one way is just to look into his dupe. If you just wanted to see the street like you claim, then you could just as easily not put any props since they are nocollided anyway, or used one of the many other non-solid textures. What I really want is any single good reason to why you did exactly what you did given the claims you've already made.

The original purpose for the no collided wall was so i could get to the other side of the props to change the material, also the reason why i made it the WHOLE outside section a one way is so people inside can see outside while they are inside but people outside can see in, to form a little bit of privacy you know.  I was even going to make a whole cafe completed with a kitchen and everything but it was getting late so i decided to just hop off.

Edited May 3, 2025 by Tempykilledher

[Blue.]

Dude it is just WEIRD to sit there and stare at someones base for actual hours... The fact that you are defending this SO ADAMANTLY, and not stopping to understand where you are wrong, and why this whole situation is wrong, is honestly concerning. This is not staff behavior, this is straight up harassment, light maybe but still. The big issue is you don't seem to want to acknowledge you are wrong, and you are arguing about it.

Anyone can toss some props down and say "hey look i did the thing right so im not wrong!" still doesn't change the fact that you ARE loopholing.

You should probably stop before you dig yourself in a bigger hole tbh.

[Zesty]

30 minutes ago, Tempykilledher said:

If I one, own the building, and two no raid occurred after the placement of the props, then how does this situation go against said rule?  Like i have said, theres was no pvp altercations after the placement of the props therefore there is no “advantage” to gain, You also mentioned, me seeing if the raid was “worth it”, which would not be a motive for me to do this if that was the intent because i was already in the base beforehand with  Xanax. Also “Noticing that you're zoomed in directly at the base and not the street view that you said it was made for Tempy.......“ The images provided are not my point of view so i im confused on where the evidence of me zooming into his base is.

 

 

The exploit ban is when you USE the advantage for a raid, you ARE gaining an advantage by putting these props down to look into his base through his world glowed props. A PVP altercation isn't required for an advantage to be had, it would just be what is needed to turn it to an exploiting ban. This is clear loopholing and is simply just not allowed.

 

I am +1 for a warn for loopholing/Prop abuse.

Edited May 3, 2025 by Zesty

[Malicious]

This is clear loopholing and the way you’re arguing it tempy isn’t a good look, you’ve done the deed and now you’re arguing.

what stops others from doing this?

 

Going as bob the builder and getting a friend to raid, you literally was looking into the base i don’t know why you’re trying to argue that fact, in the first picture you’re literally looking for the opportunity when they drop dupe to run in and raid it, very obvious what your intentions were, you’re a mod and your well versed in the rules i don’t see why you bothered doing this.

+1 for a warn for prop abuse

and also for this to be a rule in the !rules so there’s no other gray area like this that can be abused.

 

Edited May 3, 2025 by Malicious

[Tempykilledher]

6 minutes ago, Blue. said:

Dude it is just WEIRD to sit there and stare at someones base for actual hours... 
 

The claim that I was there for "hours" is just completely false, I was there for a max 45 minutes, constructing the base the whole time.


 

[Henchy]

13 minutes ago, Tempykilledher said:

The original purpose for the no collided wall was so i could get to the other side of the props to change the material, also the reason why i made it the WHOLE outside section a one way is so people inside can see outside while they are inside but people outside can see in, to form a little bit of privacy you know.  I was even going to make a whole cafe completed with a kitchen and everything but it was getting late so i decided to just hop off.

I believe the best course of action is to just admit you are in the wrong, it's very clear what the intended use of that 1 way is for since I can't really see why'd you'd have that in that specific spot. Everything has been explained at this point so honestly just say that it was a bad idea and you messed up.

[Gerald]

I have the ability to say that when my input that I have given is wrong and after reading Tenes comments I am more starting to agree with him yes he was in the wrong for this. And I can agree that something should be done and I have changed my mind I think that I will leave a plus one and or a minus one and I think I will +1 For Staff Retraining For Tempy. And or a warn depending on Higher up digression ( go back to t-mod get retrained and work your way back up the ladder)

1 hour ago, Tene said:

No, you are not allowed to spawn/use your own oneway props to look through OTHER PEOPLE'S bases.

Edited May 3, 2025 by Gerald

[Blue.]

6 minutes ago, Tempykilledher said:

The claim that I was there for "hours" is just completely false, I was there for a max 45 minutes, constructing the base the whole time.


 

45 minutes is still nuts lmao cmon, any time isn't okay anyways - but I said 2 hours because thats what the initial report said, and you made no correction in your replies

Edited May 3, 2025 by Blue.