LeGerbs Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 10 minutes ago, bone. said: I partially did this and got my removal accepted by the way! And was your ban based on being a part of a group that doxxed our playerbase labeling many as pedophiles while also alting for more than two years? I believe I can recall a ban that just recently ended that affected you with Doxxing. That turned into a literal community removal over an accident. Whereas nothing fuel had done in the past was an accident and all intentional. I can also recall considering Blue and I banned you that the actions you took paled in comparison to the actions of Fuel who had literally joined our staff team while community removed. Besides that point. Fuel I read your entire post and I've already been willing to forgive you and I'm entirely positive most people would. But forgiveness only goes so far. I don't like you. I'll never be your friend. I will never associate with you in any manner. I do share the same sentiment as Doc and Rubik I hope you've changed and I hope you find the right path and stay on it. I also can't imagine how terrible it would be to be an overweight kid with confidence issues being groomed by a disturbingly awful person all while in the midst of Covid having everything shut down so you weren't able to be a kid outside and with friends. I genuinely do wish you the best and push away from your past destructive self into a better person. But I will not change my vote on this appeal at this time. You alting showed again another lack of regard for our rules and policies and to top it off you applied to be on our staff team knowing full well that your actions were 100% not allowed. As for the people who think I'm being unreasonable or am not willing to give people chances. Bone. Frisco. Ogbot. I've always been the one fighting the hardest to get them removed. I pushed for Frisco to be unbanned even if it was against a superior and good friends. I am not a -1 forever and think you deserve a chance, but not right now. You need to spend more time away and not alting and breaking our rules. Then after some more time come back with the approval of admins and mainly Rubik and appeal again just as you did here. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22004-fuelviolent-theft2nematodes-comm-removal-appeal/page/6/#findComment-151038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajan Canadian Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 (edited) 13 hours ago, Riv said: After consulting with Rubik and the admins, i will be against this appeal. To accept this would set the precedents that our comm removals mean nothing. Additionally, you did alt while banned. -1 I've been reading through the replies and this comment is rubbing me the wrong way. Community removals were always appealable (Frisco, raccoons/chud, haze of dream, b0ne) so that prescedant is already set. Disallowing someone to appeal one after being given explicit approval by Rubik seems silly. And for the alting while banned comment many did this before as well while still getting their removals appealed. (Might I remind Frisco, racoons/chud, b0ne) Edited September 18, 2024 by etho414 Forgot Abt bone 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22004-fuelviolent-theft2nematodes-comm-removal-appeal/page/6/#findComment-151039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessmond Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 3 minutes ago, LeGerbs said: That turned into a literal community removal over an accident. Almost like we also gave him a second chance on the server after only a couple of months being banned. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22004-fuelviolent-theft2nematodes-comm-removal-appeal/page/6/#findComment-151040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGerbs Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Terrry said: Almost like we also gave him a second chance on the server after only a couple of months being banned. His second chance was a reduction to 6 months with a permanent staff ban. Without him alting a single time or causing drama/being involved with the community. But somehow with Fuel you're willing to unban him outright with no staff ban or probationary period. Edited September 18, 2024 by LeGerbs Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22004-fuelviolent-theft2nematodes-comm-removal-appeal/page/6/#findComment-151041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessmond Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 1 minute ago, LeGerbs said: His second chance was a reduction to 6 months with a permanent staff ban. Without him alting a single time or causing drama/being involved with the community. But somehow with Fuel you're willing to unban him outright with no staff ban or probationary period. ? You seem to have some issue with grouping multiple people together or you just haven't read the post. I am for a probationary period but not staff ban because if we are going the same way we did with bone you cannot get staff while on probation so any probation period is also a staff ban. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22004-fuelviolent-theft2nematodes-comm-removal-appeal/page/6/#findComment-151043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc McStubbins� Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 Fuel, I read your life story. Thanks for sharing. I appreciate the DM as well. I just want to reiterate a point here; You posted my home address with my face, and a fake article about me being a pedophile, and me protecting and harboring such characters in TitsRP. And I wasn't the only one you did it to. You directly affected someone's real life, and they hired a lawyer to deal with you and the situation you created. That cost them real money, and real time away from things like work and family. Some things do not deserve to be forgiven. If this community has turned into a group of people who are ok with your actions(even the recent ones), then I am incredibly surprised. Seems you made some friends, and they are willing to go to bat for you on this, at the risk of their own character and values. The shit you started with your friends is the reason I left. I was tired of getting DMs and questions about why I was a pedophile and why I was protecting R***be and P***ri. As an overall vote, it seems like things are on your side. Good for you. If I were actually part of this community, and my vote actually mattered, I wouldn't have even given you the courtesy Rubik did. I would just close the chapter and move along with a massive -1. Good luck. 3 3 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22004-fuelviolent-theft2nematodes-comm-removal-appeal/page/6/#findComment-151045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 -1 Until Doc and/or Rubik have a change of heart on how they feel on this I cannot with good conscience be okay with someone coming back if I was in their shoes; just based on how others feel about it. You know I want you back and to have fun here again, that being said what you did is so beyond the realms of what is accepted here that I understand their points. 2 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22004-fuelviolent-theft2nematodes-comm-removal-appeal/page/6/#findComment-151049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoN Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 I haven't had any negative experiences with this person while he was known as "violent theft", but from Docs/Rubik's POV, judging from how affected they were from what he did, I genuinely don't think it's fair to allow somebody like this back into a community where it's possible for the same mistakes to happen again. This is a GMOD server, if you go out of your way to ruin somebody's life to this extent, you're almost asking to be permanently removed. I sure as hell wouldn't be comfortable being around somebody like this, I don't see how some people are within this thread, despite how "changed" they may be. Community removals are meant to be permanent, and this is probably for one of the worst reasons I've read, if this is accepted I really don't see what the point is anymore. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22004-fuelviolent-theft2nematodes-comm-removal-appeal/page/6/#findComment-151050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katoon Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 I dont normally react to appeals but i think bringing a player back that Doxx other players is like a not appealable ban him being 13 back than isnt a excuse and he was alting accepting this on the severeness of the doxx will be a very bad example to our community on top he was alting what increase the severeness it even more so -1 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22004-fuelviolent-theft2nematodes-comm-removal-appeal/page/6/#findComment-151051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 16 hours ago, Riv said: After consulting with Rubik and the admins, i will be against this appeal. To accept this would set the precedents that our comm removals mean nothing. Additionally, you did alt while banned. -1 I have reached out to Fuel to get the story for myself and after the discussion we had where we went through every one of my concerns, I will be changing my vote. I should have investigated this myself to begin with. I believe Fuel was a vulnurable child on the internet which was used against him and lead to him being in the wrong crowd which ALSO lead to him being manipulated. I can say I relate to what he has been through with random people on the internet, and I believe in second chances. +1 for unban +1 for 3 month probation (which includes a staff ban) To all who blindly vote, please investigate this yourself. 1 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/22004-fuelviolent-theft2nematodes-comm-removal-appeal/page/6/#findComment-151052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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