Coconut Overflow's Community Removal Appeal

[TapWater69]

I've never really got to meet you in game or talk to you out of game I do recall joining the server and seeing you as Head Admin or admin one of the 2 and I completely agree with what chesmond said I think a +1 for ban to be reduced to 6 months 

- 1 for full unban 

I don't know what you did as staff for your staff ban so I will not be speaking on it 

and I don't really know what you did fully to get community removal I know as much from your appeal 

 

[Fabrizio]

6 hours ago, Frisco said:

Already having a date to appeal and some admin deciding it doesn’t matter is extremely unusual. I completely disagree with Isaac’s decision. Other than that I agree with what Chesmond said entirely. You should never be allowed to be staff again. Not in a year from now, not ever. 

I 100% agree. I find Isaac's decision to let him appeal a little odd; I don't think you should ever be allowed back on the staff team.

19 hours ago, cobaselic said:

I have a hard time believing what was leaked out was fake. The images attached were real, and they were really sent to spektor by you. When the "allegations" came out, you didn't deny the conversation. You only denied one specific sentence. I think letting you back into the community without being able to prove 100% that it didn't happen would be a very stupid move. Also, why are you being allowed to appeal early? What's the point in setting a date for you to appeal if you're just gonna run to your friend in power and get shit changed for you? What would be the good of having you around to begin with? "Oh I can make the community a better place", highly doubtful. You ain't worth the risk forreal.

 

And before anyone tries to say Spektor said he didn't say that so it must not be real, Spektor is a pedophile. She has been banned from other communities for that reason, hence why she is banned here. She lied to people about her age, about why she was banned from other communities, she e-dated multiple staff members at once in order to try to manipulate her way into some sort of power, nobody should believe a word that comes out of her mouth. If I recall correctly, Coconut was one of her main squeezes. It doesn't surprise me that she would try to cover for him now.

 

This is a community removal, let's see if the community member opinions will be taken down.

 " What would be the good of having you around to begin with? "Oh I can make the community a better place", highly doubtful. You ain't worth the risk forreal." 

I was thinking the same, I think it would just be a risk to let him back into a community even if he says He can Make it a better place. 

 

-1

 

[AflictoGaming]

57 minutes ago, TapWater69 said:

I've never really got to meet you in game or talk to you out of game I do recall joining the server and seeing you as Head Admin or admin one of the 2 and I completely agree with what chesmond said I think a +1 for ban to be reduced to 6 months 

- 1 for full unban 

I don't know what you did as staff for your staff ban so I will not be speaking on it 

and I don't really know what you did fully to get community removal I know as much from your appeal 

 

Tap and Mak basically said it all for me so i am a +1 for ban to be reduced to 6m and -1 for a full unban. 

Only real way to see if someone can do this or that is by giving them the chance to show it

[Opila Bird]

1 hour ago, kashpaint said:

So perma staff ban for trying to give a player a chance back into the server? I think that's kinda shitty. He was trying to give players chances, and I find that very nice from him. Why would you punish him for having mercy?

before this narrative continues to spin out, this was not the reason to not make coco staff again nor why he was demoted. Letting haze come back was the idea of many of the higher ups of staff at the time. If you dont know why he was demoted then you can ask him why, it also doesnt have to do with the spektor situation, even though that is something that I have taken into account with my reply.

[JeromeASF]

1 hour ago, GoatNuts said:

but how relevant are instructions to appeal your ban on X date when i did get unbanned before the appeal date on my permaban appeal and Coco was told he was fine to appeal by an admin?

It's very relevant, The reason you got unbanned was because we all voted on your unban. I voted no in that one too.

[Coconut Overflow]

10 hours ago, bugman said:

before this narrative continues to spin out, this was not the reason to not make coco staff again nor why he was demoted. Letting haze come back was the idea of many of the higher ups of staff at the time. If you dont know why he was demoted then you can ask him why, it also doesnt have to do with the spektor situation, even though that is something that I have taken into account with my reply.

My perspective is important on the matter, but the responsibility in relaying to the community the truth on this one should be going to the staff, in my opinion. I do not have an issue dming players in discord (I’ve had to have told at least 10+ players why I was banned), the community has their faith in you guys. They have already asked me what happened, and most know my point of view. They want to know how the staffing community views what I did, the other side of the situation. I am 100% comfortable with the staff team putting here where I went wrong, so we can move together to fix it, or at least be all on the same page.

[Guest]

Coco, can you tell me why u got banned? You can send me a DM on Discord or forum messages

[Coconut Overflow]

1 hour ago, kashpaint said:

Coco, can you tell me why u got banned? You can send me a DM on Discord or forum messages

Anyone should be able to add me through discord! My username is coconutoverflow, feel free to send a request my way, I’ll do my best to respond as soon as I can. I currently will be a bit busy today, but once I get a chance to sit down at the PC I can do that!

[Smelly]

It’s no doubt that some staff issues occurred and those should not be overlooked. Because those staff issues also breached the rules of the server, I understand the ban. I think a 6 month ban is more reasonable along with a staff ban due to mishandling of information that negatively impacted members of the community we strive to take care of.

 

I was losing sleep over your mishandling of information to protects players of this community, staying up all night watching discord and the forums to make sure we put a cap on it as soon as possible and no more leaks coming to the surface while staff slept.

You did have great community engagement and were always down to talk and help players new or old and I can appreciate anyone that adds content to a server such as yourself. 

 

+1 to a reduction of 6 months and a +1 for a perm staff ban

 

For anyone commenting moving further, this appeal is for doxxing, staff abuse and drama. Let’s stay on track here. 

Edited April 20 by Smelly

[Tene]

pretty sure coconut was actively leaking parts of the ongoing staff discussion/report with sewer/booper (who were then relaying the info on to b3nz). the b3nz situation probably wouldnt have been anywhere near as cancer had coconut took actual staff precautions and discussed with everyone first before doing anything (like unbanning b3nz). he blindly trusted sewer / booper because they were ex staff and consequently believed a known manipulator, instead of looking at the facts and discussing with a team (something he is known for not doing and even had a situation the day before where he swore he would discuss everything with his team in the future), or getting the other side of the story.



Bone reported a player for doxxing him with evidence of the doxxing, to coconut's dms. Coconut then decides to screenshot bone's private report (including the dox) and send it to non-staff. im not sure how you fumble this badly, its not even an incompetency issue, its quite literally just seeing a dox and being like let me send this to some other people, who arent staff, just to send it (i guess). 


coconut was actively communicating with the group reporting bone, unbanning b3nz (because egirl), but for whatever reason 1) refused to discuss with his team and 2) refused to see bone's side of the story. Bone got doxxed and was still the one who got community removed, and no action was taken about the doxx despite it being very clear that the only person who could have done the dox was b3nz / b3nz provided the info for the doxx. Coconut said he was sorry in my dms about what happened, but also that he is now mod rank so its not on him to figure it out (until i told him it definitely is still his responsibility). 
This is more than just a fumble its straight up doxxing and being biased to comm remove someone and ignore anything happening to them. 


sends the evidence to sewer and booper, sends the dox to them, asks for their opinions.... not his staff teams (i assume)

btw coconut said he thought the doxx was bone doxxing himself (?) - an explanation that was brought up by the only person that could have doxxed him (b3nz), and yet he believed it. He also then says he even thought it could have been some of his own admins that doxxed bone. All this just so he didnt have to reach the obvious conclusion infront of him, which was that, b3nz was the only one with his address, and b3nz is the only one that could/would have given the information to doxx him, presumably because b3nz is his friend or as i said because shes a woman. The mental hurdles he jumped through just to avoid putting any blame on b3nz is insane.


whilst this is less relevant, since its a community removal appeal and we are deciding on if the user should be allowed back in the community i think it still holds weight.

Coconut claims he could not have sent pedophilic messages to Spektor, because he was in a call and because there was a different situation at the time. He is fine to provide screenshots of that group chat, but is not sending screenshots of his dms with spektor at the date and time of the screenshot.

i assume if spektor is now covering for him they will both just delete their msgs and there will be a void space in their dms at this point, but idrc. can coconut send a screenrecording of his dms with spektor at the date of the screenshot? its just weird he sends screenshots of everything BUT his dms with spektor (the only thing that would be able to actually disprove it). 
either way after i saw these screenies and his defense being so bad i made my mind up and i dont think should return to community 


(not posting full img unless its wanted)


final edit:
isaac shouldnt be able to just overrule a pre-made staff decision on someones ban appeal being set to a specific date. isaac has a tendency to randomly overrule things to do with appeal times (haze of dream) and is just overriding decisions... wait ur time before appealing, otherwise whats the point of any staff decision ever when isaac is just going to overrule them, as per usual.

Edited April 21 by Tene