Guest Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 -1 Not only should he not return but he should not be allowed to make any more appeals. Not only has he failed to apologize to the community for the way he acted, he defends his actions in this thread and continues to paint the community as the problem. If the community is the problem, WHY do you want to come back to it? It's pretty illogical to come to the conclusion that you've changed based on one VC with like one or two people that have interacted with you previously. You caused staff members to quit. You caused a community you were only a part of for four days to despise you. Stay gone, we don't want you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WantedNearby Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 +1 this guy is wholesome. Stay true to yourself and show the world they were wrong. Peace out forums! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yahya Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, cobaselic said: An offer was extended to everyone. The offer was if anyone wanted to talk to haze, big guy would add them to a group chat so that they could talk to haze and big guy. It is on haze to prove to the community that he's changed and is worthy of another chance, not the other way around. He could have hopped in the vc and spoke just like everyone else. His mouthpiece was there and it did not help him any. this is kinda real @Haze_of_dreamwsp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yahya Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, WantedNearby said: +1 this guy is wholesome. Stay true to yourself and show the world they were wrong. Peace out forums! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Worst Dad Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Hello Haze, thank you for the appeal. I have originally abstained from commenting from this appeal for a while now, so I could gather as many viewpoints as possible before I commented. At first, I simply did not see the rhyme or reason to devoting so much time and energy towards 3+ year old ban. Then I decided to do some due diligence. I want to start off by saying I do not agree with the original reason of the permanent ban. During my last and present time as staff, I have heard many tales of how things were ran. And it sounds like things were akin to the Wild West. Where bans as well as demotions could be handed out on a whim, or if people had just felt like it. Where you could be removed just for being unlikable. I'd like to think we've markedly improved since then, on how we handle appeals as well as bans, and we're more efficient book keepers. Which, from the many hours spent scouring these forums and discords, I haven't really found much. We are not the staff team of yesteryear. If you were such a horrible person, why is your profile not flooded with warns and bans for toxicity, FTC, etc? That sounds like general incompetence and bad book keeping on the staff of that time. And before those of you reading this who were involved, and didn't agree, if you did nothing wrong you have nothing to worry your heads about. I wonder to myself, should we keep you banned because of our failure? We have these systems in place to document and it seems to have largely gone underutilized. Something that has always astounded me, you're painted as this mythical monster, something that parents tell their kids to be afraid to try to get them to act good, or they won't receive any presents on Christmas or be eaten in their sleep. When in reality it's just as easy to type !xban and get rid of you just as quick as it is to unban you. I am certainly not afraid of someone on a Garry's Mod server in 2024, and have no problem in taking your sits to get free Suga and DarkRP$. As I am sure you have heard, all manner of people from that time have come out of the woodwork to voice their opinions. Former staff and former players a like. The irony lies that a majority of them can barely clock in 6 hours a week, or haven't played any in months. Some have left due to disinterest, some to being demoted, or some who just like stirring the pot and throwing shit like apes. So I ask myself, who is actually affected in your un-ban? Certainly not those kinds of people right? As outside of the vocal minority in discord and the forums, the average player on the server has no clue on what goes on in the server outside of the game itself. And I personally do not feel like letting people with near non-existent dictate my opinion or how the server operates. So I'm all for giving you a chance. At best, you just become a normal player. At worst, we go back to square one. +1 for un-ban. 6 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbov Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 23 hours ago, Rubik said: @vbov that’s because you joined 29 months after he was banned. thats not the way i mean it he is nice idk how he got banned for player toxicity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaselic Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 hours ago, vbov said: thats not the way i mean it he is nice idk how he got banned for player toxicity That's because you joined 29 months after he was banned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smer Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 +1 for unban 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I wasn't super active during the time you we're banned but from what I am hearing you used to be a nuisance making normal players quit and staff quit. (Also terrry made good points) -1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enowapi Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 after being in the call and listening to both sides I'm going to be a -1 for the simple fact that it still feels like you are playing the victim, all I heard was "I'm banned from this other server because xyz and not because you ever did anything wrong" and that doesn't sit right with me, you say you have changed but all I seen in that call was a fake persona to be unbanned 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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