1-800-Suicide Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Your In-Game Name: piklas Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:61391449 Who are you reporting?: gn isaac STEAM_0:1:175089335 Why are you reporting this player?: He kidnapped me as the serial killer, brought me into a building and proceeded to place down a dupe on my kidnapped body without a keypad. I asked him why he did this and he said nothing. I made a sit while there were other staff on including gn isaac and it went ignored. I do not have any video evidence of this happening unfortunately and there is no way to get logs of no keypads ever existing. I would hope but I do not expect gn isaac to be honest about what happened since he decided to ignore what is objectively a small thing that would at most lead to a verbal warning. I was told to make this report. Do you have evidence related to this incident?: No 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{GN} Isaac Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) part 1 : https://streamable.com/indryv part 2: https://streamable.com/qo33tw part 3: https://streamable.com/gath6w part 4: https://streamable.com/gwbt0s I kidnapped Piklas and took him to my base. I have a kidnap base on the go that I use sometimes. I placed the dupe over Piklas' body, then placed a button on the door. I like to mess around with my targets before I kidnap them sometimes, so I started flashing him. During that, he started saying I didn't have keypads placed down, which was false, but I noticed I didn't place a keypad on his side, and he would report me over something little like that. So I went and fixed it, but Bro got out, and I killed him after. Either way, the front door had a button, so if anyone were to try to break him out, all they had to do was press the button, or since he was mayor, he would have been able to lockpick the front door. Piklas made a sit regarding the issue, but I didn't want to take it since I knew Piklas would try to claim something against me. So I waited for other staff to take it, but nobody did, so I told Piklas to make a report on me. have a great day Edited July 17, 2023 by {GN} Isaac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Need a button or keypad on both sides to be valid. We added persistent keypads and buttons to the advdupe2 tool so I’d recommend you update all of your dupes to include keypads on both side of a fading door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Rubik said: We added persistent keypads and buttons to the advdupe2 tool hey im sorry for intruding in this report but buttons dont get copied, only keypads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Rubik said: Need a button or keypad on both sides to be valid. We added persistent keypads and buttons to the advdupe2 tool so I’d recommend you update all of your dupes to include keypads on both side of a fading door. Due to the keypads now being able to be duped I would leave it at a verbal for FailRP. If this was most any standard player we would verbal here and you did get released from it when he was trying to put the keypad down. +1 for a verbal and to tell him to not be dumb and put keypads in his dupe so he avoids this in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironfish1 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Hello Piklas, I would like to apologize that you went through this. After reviewing all available evidence, it is fairly clear that this was an instance of FailRP. In this instance it was quite a small infraction of our rules, you were kidnapped during this, when you did raise issue with the fact that isaac had no keypads he opened the door and pasted one down. I will say there is also the fact of Isaac posting the evidence himself, which does show that at the least, he wanted to be held accountable for his actions if he did mess up. I am personally a +1 for a verbal warning at most / just being educated and having him update dupes with keypads. I understand that Staff Members must be held to a higher standard and me saying that might be viewed as inaction on said topic, however, there must be a line drawn somewhere. This is a tiny instance of failrp given all of the context and circumstances surrounding it. I will end this off by once more apologizing that you had to go through this. Best Regards, Ironfish1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconut Overflow Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 In the basing rules, there is a rule that specifically states: You cannot build/remove props to your advantage while being raided or in a situation that involves a clash between other players. Ex: Stealing a printer, running to your base, deleting it and then placing the base back when you're inside. The clash here is between Isaac and Piklas. Placing down props during this kidnapping is FailRP, because it gives you an advantage. During a kidnapping, you have to have your props already down, and enter the keypad manually (using fading doors during rp is FDA) to open the fading door. Also, the keypads were not placed, as stated above. Granted, this report would have gone nowhere if proof wasn't supplied, which I very much thank Isaac for supplying. However, the rules were broken. I am +1 for a warn for FailRP. Make sure to have your dupe set up before the kidnap, with proper keypads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddim Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) Thanks for the report Piklas, As Coconut said above, there is a rule stated that you cannot place props/build in an RP scenario as this gives an unfair advantage. The advantage here was that Piklas was kidnapped so he could not retaliate while Isaac was putting down his dupe. As the dupe was placed down, there were initially no keypads/buttons. Yes he did place a button down but he started engaging in the scenario ( throwing flashbangs ) before he placed the keypad inside. I would consider this FailRP solely off the advantage and the rule stated above. Initially Piklas did not support his claim with evidence but thankfully Isaac had clips, which unfortunately incriminated him. I agree that staff should be held to a higher standard, if this was a NEW player I would agree with a verbal, however Isaac is nowhere near new and he's an SMod so I'll give a +1 for FailRP Warn Edited July 17, 2023 by riddim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{GN} Isaac Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Yeah what overflow posted I did indeed break a rule so I take any type of punishment sorry about that have a good day. Will do better in the future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconut Overflow Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) Isaac has accepted his fate. You can warn yourself in game whenever you get the chance to do so. ACCEPTED, WILL BE WARNED FOR FAILRP Edited July 18, 2023 by Coconut Overflow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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