Stinger Flynn Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 In-Game Name b0ne Your Steam ID 76561198131026131 Why were you banned or warned? FailRP (blocking door to building with money pot [Indestructable entity]){Multiple prior offenses for blocking doors with indestructible entities}, Player Toxicity (homophobic slurs), IRDM, LTAP / Innapropriate comments / More homophobic slurs Why should you be unwarned/unbanned? My ban was extended from 14 days to 30 days due to "Inappropriate comments" and "More homophobic slurs." My ban was extended to 30 days after around 2-3 days of the original ban. This appeal is only covering the extension reasons to get the extension removed. The person I made the what you staff call "Inappropriate comments" were found to be true and that person is now community removed. I don't think it's right to keep someone locked up for speaking truth. I don't know what "More homophobic slurs" are referring to. I never really asked either so maybe Blue can clarify on that cause I have no idea what that is. Who warned/banned you? Tyz37 -> SuicideBlue How long were you warned or banned for? 14 days extended to 30 days 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue. Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) On 11/8/2022 at 3:22 PM, bone. said: The person I made the what you staff call "Inappropriate comments" were found to be true and that person is now community removed. They were removed because it was what needed to be done regardless of knowing or not - which they did not know - you calling them a pedo to their friends still isn't ok - feel how you want but keep it to yourself. the extra homophobic slurs to that long ass list didnt increase the ban. As for everything else thats all tyz. This wasnt your first time in situations like this - so 2 weeks were stacked on to your ban tyz gave. Spoiler Edited November 9, 2022 by Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toosii Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, bone. said: The person I made the what you staff call "Inappropriate comments" were found to be true and that person is now community removed. I don't think it's right to keep someone locked up for speaking truth. Could you provide some more detail regarding this part of your appeal? I know there have been several community removals here lately so trying to figure out who exactly you are referring to lmfao. You could always message me on discord if needed about this rayray61#8314 I will wait to +1/-1 this appeal until I can get a little more information regarding that & everything else that happened leading to your ban + after Tyz has had a chance to comment on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyz37 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 The extension is due to you calling someone a pedo and causing issues (using a homophobic slur to insult a person) to another person. The person that you called that was not aware of the actual age of the other person as they were lied to about it. As per the punishment guidelines, rules, and staff decisions on how situations are to be handled, the person was removed from the community for the reason even though they did not know of the other person's actual age. You intentionally went into their friend's private discord server, called the person a pedo, and used homophobic language towards the friend of the person you called a pedo when they politely asked what you were talking about. You can still be punished for stuff you do outside the server as it states in the rules. This is not an exception to that. You may feel like the person is one but that is not something to go around shouting especially when you more than likely did not get the full list of events or did not get all the information from someone who has all of said information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyz37 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 The actual decision to increase the ban was a decision made by admin when the report for it was given to me AFTER your initial ban. You got banned by me for abusing indestructible entities, decided to go to their friend group's discord server, and proceeded to call names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Personal attacks on other players should result in a 3-day ban - 1-week ban - 2-week ban depending on continued offenses/previous history Ex: (Player X says a racial slur: warn) (Old Player says a racial slur with previous bans for racism: 1 day ban minimum) Ex:(Player X targets and harasses Player Y. Player X is being racist, slandering them, degrading them. Player Y reports Player Xwith evidence: 1+ week ban. If ban time is unclear, contact Smod+ previous offenses should increase the ban.) Ex: (Player X tells Player Y he is going to find where they live and kill their family: perma ban) Pedophile accusations (First offense) warn - 1 week ban depending on situation (second offense) 2 week ban no chance of appeal (third offense) 6months too perma ban depending on situation Pretty clear here to me that what the staff was doing was just adding time for the harassment stuff. And the accusations. Possibly just stacking bans of the slurs+ the accusations which isn't allowed as staff...Or was because you were trying to cause drama which is a possibility of a month ban. I will add here that your previous bans for the indestructible props and stuff shouldn't have been 2 weeks as it's been months since the last ban for it. But the only way I could see this being a month is if they took the Drama route which in punishment guidelines literally says to "take it out the server" which... technically you did. I'm reluctantly saying +1 for putting back to 2 weeks for the actions in the other server. However I will say if this is denied to update the punishment guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyz37 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Succ The Zucc said: Personal attacks on other players should result in a 3-day ban - 1-week ban - 2-week ban depending on continued offenses/previous history Ex: (Player X says a racial slur: warn) (Old Player says a racial slur with previous bans for racism: 1 day ban minimum) Ex:(Player X targets and harasses Player Y. Player X is being racist, slandering them, degrading them. Player Y reports Player Xwith evidence: 1+ week ban. If ban time is unclear, contact Smod+ previous offenses should increase the ban.) Ex: (Player X tells Player Y he is going to find where they live and kill their family: perma ban) Pedophile accusations (First offense) warn - 1 week ban depending on situation (second offense) 2 week ban no chance of appeal (third offense) 6months too perma ban depending on situation Pretty clear here to me that what the staff was doing was just adding time for the harassment stuff. And the accusations. Possibly just stacking bans of the slurs+ the accusations which isn't allowed as staff...Or was because you were trying to cause drama which is a possibility of a month ban. I will add here that your previous bans for the indestructible props and stuff shouldn't have been 2 weeks as it's been months since the last ban for it. But the only way I could see this being a month is if they took the Drama route which in punishment guidelines literally says to "take it out the server" which... technically you did. I'm reluctantly saying +1 for putting back to 2 weeks for the actions in the other server. However I will say if this is denied to update the punishment guidelines. FailRP (blocking door to building with money pot [Indestructable entity]){Multiple prior offenses for blocking doors with indestructible entities}, Player Toxicity (homophobic slurs), IRDM, LTAP were the reasons for the first 2 weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyz37 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) Additionally the person that lied about their age lied to staff as well before and it took a while to figure out which one was the lie and which was his true age. Just saying as a side note. Edited November 10, 2022 by Tyz37 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger Flynn Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 I should have put this in the original post but I'll say it now to clear some things up about the original ban reasons, primarily the entity blocking. The door in question that was being blocked was put in what I would call an obscure area of the sewer since it's usually an area people pass by. This base had zero money-making entities inside. I only blocked it off after these two kleiner fellas started coming over a bunch for whatever reason, possible terrorists in real life I don't know. Now I'm a man who likes to solve his own problems, and this was my solution. Legally not the best choice but I don't expect these people to be monitoring the entire world for the most obscure rule breaking shit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGerbs Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) In my personal opinion if something is said in a factual manner without prior knowledge of the initial ban reason because of lack of clarity on the staff teams part, it shouldn't be punished. On the other hand however the prop abusing and IRDM should be. Do I feel both of those should have been stacked to 2 weeks? No. Why? Because neither the IRDM or the prop abuse are bad enough to warrant a 2 week ban from either or both. Do I think you deserved a week ban? Yes because you clearly know the rules and are not a new player. +1 To reduce ban to 1 week including time served Edited November 11, 2022 by LeGerbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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