1-800-Suicide Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Your Steam Name: Your ingame name: Your Steam Profile/SteamID: Who are you reporting? (Their name and profile): Succ the Zucc STEAM_0:0:157950221 and another person in the video that I dont know the name of but im sure staff recognizes the voice Reasons why you are reporting: I am reporting these 2 individuals because of blatant abuse of staff powers and no visible recourse from the higher ups after succ uploaded this video himself. The video shows first of all his friend randomly spectating another mod as they are brought for a conversation with a higher up, In the staff guidelines that blacnova made there was a point about exactly this, I cannot find it anymore (https://titsrp.com/announcements.php?aid=12) but the point of it was for staff to know that randomly spectating people is disrespectful of peoples privacy and should never happen. That brings me to the circumstances of the video, where this person does not hesitate a moment to spectate the moderator being brought which makes me concerned about how regularly this person does this kind of thing. succ responded in the original post with this Also with the spectate thing. They spectated because there was really no idea why he was being taken to a sit. We didn't know if he had messed up or if he was being taken to a sit that was called on him. It was 2 days that he had been on the staff team and usually around day 2 or 3 someone calls a sit about something they didn't like the outcome of or what you did in game. The spectating was without mal intent and it was to see how he was handling it as a Trial Mod. But I hope my reply clears things up. The argument that is made is that there was no malicious intent to invade someones privacy and that somehow makes it ok, again if spectating someone randomly is something that is done casually in this clip I dont have a hard time imagining how often this might happen. Overall spectating and invading peoples privacy using staff powers is very disrespectful and removes trust from the staff team imo, I did this once to a smaller degree to find my friend when I was staff and I definetly understood why it raised a big concern, but in this case it doesn't seem like the mods involved care about the result of going big brother mode and checking in on people for no reason at random times. Overall I think these 2 individuals are bad apples within the staff team and succ made excuses on behalf of both of them to try to defend their abuse of staff powers to invade peoples privacy and gain an edge over a regular player. There is no "mal intent" with this report but I think both staff team and players are held to certain standards and if those rules and standards are so blatantly disregarded the people are entitled to punishment, In this case (imo) demotion Evidence: [video=youtube] (The first clips are what im looking at) edited away succ didknt know about claiming procs post only concerns the other person now even tho the post looks weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's cold in here(._.) Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I believe Succ having no malicious intent, this report in my opinion isnt really needed. In the end of the day the higher ups will decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroshima6ix9ine Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 What do you mean there is so no such thing as “claiming” a processor? It literally has a screen on it to do such. A mod can’t mess with a proccessor owned by someone else, plus there is no need to. Anyone can take a processor by simply owning it. Or “claiming” it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extinct Species Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 The person in the back talking is Tass. I do not see where you are talking about the phygun abuse/ nor the part where you talk about him freezing a processor to make it unraidable/frozen. All I see that is wrong with this is Tass just randomly spectating a player. This is invading some ones privacy. Even if he just got brought to a sit and is in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-800-Suicide Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 My bad, I haven't actually used a processor in a while and I didn't know that feature was ingame. If it can be brought to attention tho as a bug that would be nice since sometimes processors that are frozen get no collided and cannot be picked up by the boxes. Ill edit away the part about succ but the other person is still very much in the wrong imo. Also if it was tass he has been staff for a very long time and should know that randomly spectating people is unacceptable. Im pretty sure he was around when I was demoted for something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I just watched the entire video twice and I don't see any evidence of any of the claims you're making. Can you provide some timestamps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Steve Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Succ was not the one spectating, someone else was to watch the promotion of greg. I still have yet to figure that out and sure it is an invasion of privacy but I really feel like its unnecessary to demote them over that one offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I tend to agree with Steve fully on the issue. For my sake and for Tass. Tass wasn't who was spectating I'd like to point that out, I could tell by the voice in the video. I did claim the processors with my physgun before using it and even if I didn't I wouldn't be able to move them. We discussed in full about who it was and have covered the issue directly at an earlier time. This issue has been taken care of already sorry for your inconvenience in writing the report. Also I would like to note Overall I think these 2 individuals are bad apples within the staff team and succ made excuses on behalf of both of them to try to defend their abuse of staff powers to invade peoples privacy and gain an edge over a regular player. He was a Trial Moderator being promoted to Moderator. We both know it is highly against the rules to be spectating normal players without reason. As stated before there was no mal intent on behalf of the staff member that I had questioned about the issue. (I hope in me pointing it out, this clears up the your view of what you saw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-800-Suicide Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 If you know it is not allowed and you did it knowingly and intentionally your feelings about it are dont really have any merit imo. If someone were to tell you "I knew I was rdming that guy but it was only because he was micspamming and being annoying, there wasn't any malicious intent" Im sure that person would've been banned or warned. The fact stays that someone intentionally spectated someone else without thinking about it twice as far as i can see fromt he video and that doesn't only make me think its blatantly breaking the rules it also makes me question how many times the person has done it before as casually. Chances are if your first reaction when your co-worker is brought to a private conversation is to try to listen in and invade their privacy its something that happens regularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Bear Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 and should know that randomly spectating people is unacceptable I agree. Randomly spectating is something that has not been acceptable for a long time and it should stay that way. However I do not see why you're making this report and here are my thoughts as to why I think that way. You have not been involved with the server for a while now and this just seems like a way to get a giggle/revenge out of it. You chose to ignore comments on the video thread that was made with this video saying that procs could now be picked up by claiming them. "Also I claimed the processors. Which then allows me to. (this is with every player not just moderators)" "And actually processors can’t be grabbed like that with a staff physgun." If it was just Tass, Tass could very well have a good reason to spectate. You even hear him say something about the t-mod being in trouble. A t-mod got brought by a smod. Ofcourse he wants to investigate, it's what we're supposed to do. Maybe it's not the best way to do it how he did since he could've communicated in different ways to the promoting staffmember but it really is not that bad. The spectating was without mal intent A message had been sent out in one of the staff chat channels about spectating randomly and some had been given a talking to. Anyway, I'll leave the thread open for now untill I get a straight answer from higher staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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