HenryDude123 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 In-Game Name Ion culling Your Steam ID STEAM_0:0:113393479 Why were you banned or warned? Failrp Why should you be unwarned/unbanned? - I Didn't think it was FAILRP - I thought that I was party assisting someone trying to kill my party member -now I know what to do in situations like this Who warned/banned you? YOU How long were you warned or banned for? Warn So my friend Swagger had a hit on the king I believe and he killed the king while everyone shot back at him, he killed everyone in the kingdom and there was lots of entities, I follow swagger inside the kingdom just to watch him complete the hit. Swagger started raiding and all I did was watch as everything unfolds, I was not directly involved in the raid nor destroyed any entities that was Swagger. the only instance that happened was when the King came back after NLR x 2 inside kingdom and started shooting swagger, for me I thought I was just party assisting to not get him killed not thinking that would make in involved in the raid without adverting during the time all I thought was that i was just protecting my party member. Swagger have taken a warn for FAILRP because of the entities he destroy without adverting raid. The king which was a 13 year old minge started going around and got banned for MRDM ( he was cringe), yea but i feel like i should have been verbally warned, YOU can also agree that he was a cringe lord. I also tried giving him entities that I DID NO BREAK, i humbly ask you to please rethink my warn Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/18045-false-kingdom-raid/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 After thinking about how this would be the same idea as protecting your party member...He had a hit. Didn't advert raid...to complete a hit. You would have still had to advert even if it was protecting the guy as you would be killing the guys the second you stepped in if he's conducting a raid for a hit you're the aggressors not the defenders. It would be like a citizen raiding a base a bounty hunter is raiding so that the bounty hunter doesn't die in the raid... just doesn't make sense to me. Personally I'm -1. The warn itself is just, and the mental gymnastics I would have to go through to think that would be okay is astronomical. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/18045-false-kingdom-raid/#findComment-124276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumper Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 This is basically like our pd rule, you can't defend yourself in pd without calling a pd raid outside. In this instance you can't defend yourself in a kingdom raid unless you advert outside of portal. (it was your choice to follow your party member into a raid) Warn is valid. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/18045-false-kingdom-raid/#findComment-124277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryDude123 Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Succ The Zucc said: After thinking about how this would be the same idea as protecting your party member...He had a hit. Didn't advert raid...to complete a hit. You would have still had to advert even if it was protecting the guy as you would be killing the guys the second you stepped in if he's conducting a raid for a hit you're the aggressors not the defenders. It would be like a citizen raiding a base a bounty hunter is raiding so that the bounty hunter doesn't die in the raid... just doesn't make sense to me. Personally I'm -1. The warn itself is just, and the mental gymnastics I would have to go through to think that would be okay is astronomical. personally I looked at it like if someone killed my party member in PD I would party assist and kill him back. Even if the kingdom was a raid I thought it was a hit and that's why I party assist, if I knew that it was a raid of course I am going to advert, I did say that i watch as everything unfolds but that was him killing people shooting at him, not him destroy ents Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/18045-false-kingdom-raid/#findComment-124278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryDude123 Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, Mumper said: This is basically like our pd rule, you can't defend yourself in pd without calling a pd raid outside. In this instance you can't defend yourself in a kingdom raid unless you advert outside of portal. (it was your choice to follow your party member into a raid) Warn is valid. Like I said I DID NOT KNOW IT WAS A RAID I only followed him in to see him complete a hit not to raid, when he was getting shot at by the kingdoms guard and he killed them I thought it was justified because they shot first. I did not go in kingdom thinking it was a raid again, I was in there to watch the hit being completed Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/18045-false-kingdom-raid/#findComment-124279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyz37 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, HenryDude123 said: personally I looked at it like if someone killed my party member in PD I would party assist and kill him back. Even if the kingdom was a raid I thought it was a hit and that's why I party assist, if I knew that it was a raid of course I am going to advert, I did say that i watch as everything unfolds but that was him killing people shooting at him, not him destroy ents Even if it were in pd, you would not be allowed to party assist past lobby if you or your friend were attacked. Just leaving that as a side note. I am personally Neutral to the removal as a warn is a valid punishment. I would like to see your prior warns to be sure if a + or - 1 is in order in my opinion. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/18045-false-kingdom-raid/#findComment-124281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Okay so in this instance that is fine to assume that the raid is in that case done and finished as once he killed the king he's supposed to immediately leave the kingdom. If however the players in the kingdom start shooting at him he's allowed to fight them yes. This would still fall under this rule here. "The following jobs are allowed to raid their target only to carry out job functions. They may not interact with entities inside the base" (Hitmen being under this rule) I would say that for regular house raids this is fine if you intend on raiding with your friend for normal bases to do it with the PD or with the Kingdom you just have to advert for it. As even in the rule it is considered a raid it would be a raid in your case once you start defending him. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/18045-false-kingdom-raid/#findComment-124282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryDude123 Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Succ The Zucc said: Okay so in this instance that is fine to assume that the raid is in that case done and finished as once he killed the king he's supposed to immediately leave the kingdom. If however the players in the kingdom start shooting at him he's allowed to fight them yes. This would still fall under this rule here. "The following jobs are allowed to raid their target only to carry out job functions. They may not interact with entities inside the base" (Hitmen being under this rule) I would say that for regular house raids this is fine if you intend on raiding with your friend for normal bases to do it with the PD or with the Kingdom you just have to advert for it. As even in the rule it is considered a raid it would be a raid in your case once you start defending him. Yes, my intent was not to raid but was to protect a party member getting shot at. That party member has since been warned for interacting with ents. how I saw it in my POV was that after he completed the hit, the knights shot back and after he killed one another would come and then another in term breaking NLR. I was not aware I was in an a RP or raid situation, if I knew so I would have advert raid like I have done in the past for kingdom and PD, my thought process was me just helping a party member getting shot at after completing a hit, unaware of the raiding that was happening. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/18045-false-kingdom-raid/#findComment-124287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I'm under the idea that the warn is justified. But really this would fall under Tene (You) to decide if it's something worth keeping or not. I'll send this to him so he can respond. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/18045-false-kingdom-raid/#findComment-124293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 -1 valid warn, if tene wants to remove it he can but don't know why this would get appealed. consider just not doing that next time. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/18045-false-kingdom-raid/#findComment-124297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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