Minky Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I wouldn't know why this would be a 1 week ban, like Jewann said this wasn't even rdm, someone wanted to place a hit, Sticks accepted the hit, and killed special educator. I don't see how that would be exactly punishable by a ban or even a warn. I'm also going to put this quote from extremely trustworthy ex Sr Mod (almost practically Admin) Jack Johnson "But you see, you cant just assume they know what they did. It has to be a fact, a yes or a no. If its not a fact, you cant ban him" (Talking about loop holing and exploiting). Also aren't you suppose to discuss before banning a person... +1 for unban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Educator Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) They knew what they did, that's why they said 'he's going to time out' as I was on the ground. And then Sticks said thank you for the money so fast after he killed me, because he knew that I had no way to get back to the table. And when I came back and said this seemed like a scam Sticks said I don't give a fuck Edited January 18, 2022 by Special Educator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Educator Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCP 343 said: this didnt happen btw May I ask what you claim didn't happen? Smerexy, who was in the same call and on the same table saying immediately "He's going to time out" proving they were aware of that feature? Or Sticks responding I don't care when I said this seemed like a scam? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Educator Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, SCP 343 said: it didnt happen you are lying Here is proof of my claims. And I think this can definitely be used as evidence they knew what they were doing. Please review and tell me how I'm lying SCP 343. Clip 1: Proof of Smerexy saying that "hes gonna time out" proving that they were aware of how the timeout works if someone physically can't get back to the table in time. Clip 2: As soon as I get back Sticks starts going "trololololol" showing he knew exactly what it was he was doing and even if he wasn't doing it for the money, was trying to "troll" me, and this was clearly something he knew what he was doing. If he didn't know exactly what he was doing why would he be singing trololol if this was simply an rp situation? Clip 3: (Apologies for the audio, someone was spamming music but listening you can hear me ask. My proof that I said this seems like a scam and Sticks saying "I don't fucking care" He did it first in voice, but I couldn't really hear so he kindly reiterated in chat Please tell me how I'm lying SCP 343. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AflictoGaming Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Minky said: I wouldn't know why this would be a 1 week ban, like Jewann said this wasn't even rdm, someone wanted to place a hit, Sticks accepted the hit, and killed special educator. I don't see how that would be exactly punishable by a ban or even a warn. I'm also going to put this quote from extremely trustworthy ex Sr Mod (almost practically Admin) Jack Johnson "But you see, you cant just assume they know what they did. It has to be a fact, a yes or a no. If its not a fact, you cant ban him" (Talking about loop holing and exploiting). Also aren't you suppose to discuss before banning a person... +1 for unban Minky said it and I agree so I'm a +1 for unban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Educator Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jason Bourne said: But you see, you cant just assume they know what they did. It has to be a fact, a yes or a no. If its not a fact, you cant ban him Just out of genuine curiosity, why are we stuck on the idea they didn't know this would happen? They knew that all they had to do was raise the pot higher and higher, then place a hit on me to take the money from me. I feel my evidence supports that, especially the fact that Sticks 20 seconds after killing me said "Thanks for the money." Are we saying that alone doesn't show he clearly knew what he was doing, that making me put in lots of money then killing me wasn't his plan? If this was just to get me off the table, why make that comment? Then if you put on top of that the fact that when he saw me come back, he was singing "trolololol" at me, that just compounds the fact that he DID know exactly what he was doing, and is just being a dick about it. If I'm off base here, please someone do tell me, because I just don't understand how what I;ve shown doesn't prove these three experienced players knew exactly how this worked and what they were doing. Edited January 18, 2022 by Special Educator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AflictoGaming Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Where is actual evidence that they said they only killed you for the money? Because i have yet to see any evidence showing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Educator Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) "Thanks for the money" 20 seconds after killing me. Shows that the money I lost was immediately on their mind. Why would he say this if he wasn't killing me for money? And even if the money meant nothing to them, they still did what they did to make me lose my money. If they truly ONLY wanted to have me get up from the table, they could have waited until the hand was over, or asked me to get up. But instead they exploited the system where you can just force a player out of a hand whenever you'd like and take their money they bet Edited January 18, 2022 by Special Educator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AflictoGaming Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Special Educator said: "Thanks for the money" 20 seconds after killing me. Shows that the money I lost was immediately on their mind. Why would he say this if he wasn't killing me for money? And even if the money meant nothing to them, they still did what they did to make me lose my money. If they truly ONLY wanted to have me get up from the table, they could have waited until the hand was over, or asked me to get up. But instead they exploited the system where you can just force a player out of a hand whenever you'd like and take their money they bet That is not enough proof to show he did it just to keep you from winning. Edited January 18, 2022 by Jason Bourne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Jay Walker Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) ACCEPTED. I will talk to sticks a little more about the money thing, but this should not have been a ban with all these reasons labled on it too. Will also talk to the Staff Member too about this, find out the proper reasoning for this happening. Edited January 18, 2022 by Professional Jay Walker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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