Memes Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Your Steam Name: Lolita Your in-game name: Lolita Your SteamID: https://steamcommunity.com/id/JasonVaughan/ Why were you warned/banned?: Mass Targeting Why should you be unwarned/unbanned? : I feel that calling what I was doing mass targeting would be a little over the line. At the time in which I was playing, I could only fine a maximum of three bases that were around. One of them had a building sign, and another put up a building sign after I had raided them the first time. Other than these two, there was a huge megabase that consisted of the tunnel area and the area surrounding the farm house, so obviously that area was the top priority to raid. I initially tried a raid when I first saw it, and failed. From there I became a bounty hunter because I had just failed raiding the only real raidable base that I had found, so I figured I might as well rack up some bounty hunter kills for the leaderboard. I happened to get the people inside of that base after a bit, two of them in a row, and continued finding and killing targets. After a while, I ran out of bounties and kept swapping jobs and finding other things to do in order to get higher on the leaderboards. I was a spirit caller for a bit until I realized no one had enough xp, I was mayors assassin a couple of times, and when I wasn't doing any of those things I was running around the map looking for a base to raid, and I kept coming up empty. Once my raid timer ran out on that initial base I decided to give it another shot, but I died again. I went back to bounty hunter, did what bounties I could, then did some RDM zone for 20 minutes. After the RDM zone I went looking for another base, found one, and died raiding it. I then proceeded for the final time to the MegaBase (this was at least 30 minutes since I last tried to raid it at this point) and managed to kill a few people and get inside. I destroyed two entities because I knew they would have more in the underground cave area but by the time I got there more people had shown up and I died. TLDR: I raided a base 3 times in total over the course of like an hour and 20 minutes because there weren't many bases at the time. In between this I did stuff for leaderboards (bounty hunter, spirit caller, mayors assassin), as well as the RDM zone for a good chunk of time. Over the course of this time I found 4 bases in total and raided 3 of them, the fourth had a building sign the entire time. And apparently I was targeting the mega base because I had raided it so much. Who warned/banned you and for how long?: Succ the Zucc | 7 days Evidence: I will link a video of some of the different things I was doing in between the raids (I apologize for the garbage audio quality not sure what happened). I took these clips from a full video of basically my entire session so IF that is needed then I can get it for you but I feel that the video clips showing the different things I did should be enough. The first part is mid raid, I end up dying and swapping to a bounty hunter until the bounty list is cleared, in which I swap to spirit caller. The second part I am a mayors assassin hunting the mayor, he died before I got him, I checked the bounty list and it was empty so I decided to swap to my CC and look for another raid to do and I decided to try raiding the same base as before since my raid timer was up (I died). The third clip is me looking for another base (starting in spawn) and I find one but die after getting one kill. (Happens to be the same people from the megabase but I had no way of knowing that they were the ones already raiding it). *Original video was too long for streamable so I split it in two parts (they overlap a bit) LINKS: Part 1: https://streamable.com/evvyp Part 2: https://streamable.com/b6fcj Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/10882-lolita-ban-appeal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I'd like to see the entire video, because from what I was hearing. It was "23 minutes (about) between each raid" I saw you both times after dying, switch from Bounty hunter to something other than the CC for mayor's assassin once. It personally feels like that you switched to bounty hunter as a way to bypass the raid cooldown. Having 4-5 people in the last 2 weeks directly ask me for help because of it. I felt as if that's what was happening. So if you could I would like the entire thing because you showed on the leaderboards for 4 things and basically focused on one, and then when the raid cool down was up went right back to the base to raid it. Also if I might add, what would the reason be to raid a base 3 times (I'm going for the raids you actually broke in on) to destroy the things that made them the money (ie processors, bitcoin miners and printers) were you looking to just kill them? To finalize it so that you could raid them more in the future? Because if they don't have their entities how would they set up another base? It looked like from my end that you were going to let them set up another base so you could continue to raid the same people in the future and continue to target them in the future. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/10882-lolita-ban-appeal/#findComment-74393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memes Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 Yeah I can get the whole video for you, it might take a little bit because it is 2 hours long unedited. But before I do that I'll explain some of your points from my perspective. The reason I was focusing on bounty hunter instead of the other 3 things I was listed on the leaderboard for is because bounty hunter requires a good amount of people in order to be effective at it, whereas the other 2 things (Treasure hunter and Farmer) can be done at any time, in fact they are easier with less people on, so I usually focus on those later in the day. Mayors assassin was the only other thing I was listed for and I would do that when I noticed there was a mayor on with no grace period, which happened to be twice today. Also, bounty hunter can't control who he gets as a bounty, I don't see how you could assume that I was specifically trying to get those people to avoid the raid timer, I have no control over it. I started in the most populated area, and only went near that base when the target was inside and never went near it again after I killed my targets there. Am I expected to not play as a bounty hunter for fear that I might get a target inside of a base I've raided recently? Or if I do am I supposed to just let it pass and not attempt to kill them? I don't mean this in any negative way I'm genuinely curious so that when I get to play again eventually I won't run into this issue again. Finally, before I go and start uploading that video, am I not allowed to raid the same base even after my raid timer was up? I know the timer is 20 minutes, meaning that 23 minutes passing should have allowed me to go attempt a new raid on them regardless. Yet it seems that me raiding them after the timer was up is what the issue is here. Is there a maximum attempts I'm allowed to raid a base? Especially given the fact that it was clearly a large base that would be very lucrative to raid and it was one of the only bases I had available to raid at the time. Again, I don't mean this in any negative or angry way I'm just curious because I thought that as long as you aren't breaking the NLR timer then you are free to raid any non public base you wish. Also to answer your question, I raided them three times in total, and only one was halfway successful. I didn't include it in the edited video because it was already getting long but I broke in through the tunnel and heard more printers and raidables deeper in the cave that goes down deep underground there. So I was essentially clearing the house area of people and when they were dead I was going to break into that other area. That's why I simply destroyed the one printer and processor that I found upstairs in the house, I was 90% certain there would be a full pickup box worth of items in that cave so I destroyed the 2 things there just to save myself time. However I died as I was heading toward the save because 2 more people arrived and I died to them before I could get into the cave. So while on paper I raided them 3 times, I only ever got in once. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/10882-lolita-ban-appeal/#findComment-74396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Alright so there is no specific amount of times you can raid anyone but when it is the only person you do raid. Like there is a line between fairly raiding someone 3+ times and it being targeting. Targeting being they're the only people you raid. Also you can't choose the people you get I understand that, however it's almost every time you fail a raid you switch to bounty hunter. The 4-5 people that contacted me have said the same thing over and over again. He failed the raid, switched to bounty hunter, got me magically, raids again. Normal time for the raid is up, raids as the CC again fails again? Bounty hunter and usually doesn't get them that time but then waits out the raid timer in some other random way, usually Mayor's assassin as much as possible. Then when the timer is up? Raids again. It's the same thing over and over and over again and I've been getting complaints for the last 2 weeks with the same exact experience, with the same exact story. If they're the only people you can raid? But there is other people building? Then why did I never see you once check out these bases that were building? It seems like you weren't even trying to see any other opportunities Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/10882-lolita-ban-appeal/#findComment-74399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memes Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 Yes, when I fail a raid and don't have any other good places to raid I will swap to bounty hunter or mayors assassin in order to farm for the leaderboards. I swap OFF of those just as often because when you die as a bounty hunter you can't get another bounty for 3 minutes, so I will swap to something else, usually my CC to look for a raid or something else to do or mayors assassin if I can. Its often a constant stream of swapping when I die in order to raid or get higher on the leaderboards and I admit that, but I have never done it to intentionally target someone, I just raid when I can where I can and then go bounty hunter if I'm out of good places to raid. Also I might as well admit that I would be lying if I said becoming bounty hunter doesn't help find potential bases to raid in the future, but that's just the nature of the class, since you can see where people are hiding even if they're in their base. And in the entire time I was bounty hunter I can't recall getting anyone today that was sitting inside of a base, except the two people from the megabase, which can really help guage just how void of bases the server was at the time. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/10882-lolita-ban-appeal/#findComment-74400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhelm Panderino Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I was part of this megabase. I killed him two of the 3 times he raided. He waited his raid timer each time so im not really sure why he was banned. There was only like 30 ppl on the server at the time. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/10882-lolita-ban-appeal/#findComment-74403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 When I was on it was around 40-50. However it was that he was targeting not the matter of the raid timer (In reply to Wilhelm/Corp) Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/10882-lolita-ban-appeal/#findComment-74405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memes Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 Alright so the video finally finished and I got it uploaded for you to check out. Lemme know if you have any more questions. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/10882-lolita-ban-appeal/#findComment-74406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mori Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 wtf you can ban someone for 7 days for raiding the same people damn what kind of rules did yall add jesus christ. And bruh it isnt his fault you had a bounty :/ like why even bring up something about a bounty hunter when it targets people who has bounties at random. But personally I think if he just tried raiding you as a bounty hunter the new raid time should start from there. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/10882-lolita-ban-appeal/#findComment-74407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Herbalist Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I believe this could have been solved by simply telling Lolita to stop raiding as the owners believe he was targeting them. I 100% understand where Zucc is coming from and normally I would agree it is targeted but due to the circumstances (Bounty hunting added to kills, their base was the only one available to raid) I believe Lolita should be unbanned IMO. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/10882-lolita-ban-appeal/#findComment-74410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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