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according to the sanzu, staff abuse, cheating, IRL trading, and rape jokes are equal to leaking the personal info of a member of the community acquired via a RAT. Not acknowledging that the cheating player is directly associated with the group that did this.

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Before titsrp had the discord guild tag added, it was at 10k members, meaning 140k of the members are only in the server because of the tag being added, so if you ping everyone saying "hey if you logged in to the gmod server your ip was logged" 140k of them + however many of the original 10k are inactive/ alts will not think about it for more than 5 seconds, but for those who WERE actively playing on the server, it would be nice to know that their was potentially a leak of an IP which CAN provide the user with an idea of where you live in the world if they had isolated you to an area where only your IP is logged.

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Multiple of us have dmed rubik or messaged him in the discord asking about when this would be resolved, and when nothing ever came of it, it was decided the best course of action was to let the community weigh their own thoughts in on it, which has lead, consistently, to a disavowing of what the staff team and rubik himself chose to do, and thanking tene for making this major issue known.

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If this solution is seemingly so simple, why was this not the course of action to resolve it.


I've played on titsrp for nearly a decade and it's gotten to a point where i'm more and more uncomfortable logging in to the server and interacting in the discord by the day because of a couple of power users are allowed to run around and do whatever they want. Any group that is well known to be doxxing and spreading leaked dms acquired by RATing, as well as pulling IPs with an exploit, all while hacking, and repeatedly alting with almost no pushback (banning bill, the chosen scapegoat, who hasn't actively played on the server in over a year, and has been known to make dozens of alts to troll for multiple years at this point isn't actually stopping anything). I've seen you and rubik repeatedly mention how vbov is banned, but why is it never mentioned the fact that he was not banned for pulling IPs, and was never going to be banned, in fact getting PAID for the exploit. His ban, when it did come, was for cheating, which everyone knew was going to come eventually. The ban was blatantly obvious to any player who has been in the loop the past year or 2, as he had been banned for cheating twice before then, was still active in his own cheating/ exploit server (which multiple of the cx members, the admin henchy, and various other players of titsrp are members/ mods of) as well as an active member of tuss cheat client discord. This cult of personality that has sprung up around a group of cheating, doxxing, drama mongering users that have done nothing for the server but make people want to leave for multiple years now is going to slowly erode the server. You may not realize it now, but if this continues people will stop being comfortable being part of the community, much less logging in to the server. For many of us, this is a last ditch effort to get some sort of accountability in the community that we have been a part of since we were children, wishing to not see it become a twisted effigy of the server we've put countless hours, and dollars, in to.  For any staff reading this, I implore, before you say this is just the big bad hivemind coming to stir up drama, just take 10 minutes to look at the replies, as well as reactions to the posts. You will see users who would never associate, or even say they like any of us in a million years who all seem to be on the same page, despite our many past issues.

As for rubik, anytime me or any other user has tried to message him about any of our issues the response is almost always something about wanting to avoid/ not take part in drama, but ignoring drama isnt avoiding it. When the same players are continuously causing issues on the server it gets to a point where ignoring it is just proliferating it, and anything aside from removing them entirely is accepting it. I wish to see this server continue to thrive until gmod itself is down to its last players, but this can not happen given the current state. As for the claims of drama mongering, this is the last I will speak on this subject in any capacity. Rubik, the staff team, and the community as a whole has seen the big picture and will come to their own conclusions and make their own decisions, I just wish the decisions made can be in line with what will ensure the safety, security, and longevity of the community, its users, and the server.

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1 hour ago, Opila Bird said:

according to the sanzu, staff abuse, cheating, IRL trading, and rape jokes are equal to leaking the personal info of a member of the community acquired via a RAT. Not acknowledging that the cheating player is directly associated with the group that did this.

idk who got doxxed that was before my time [im new i started seriously playing in like, may or april of this year]

 

 

1 hour ago, Opila Bird said:

Before titsrp had the discord guild tag added, it was at 10k members, meaning 140k of the members are only in the server because of the tag being added, so if you ping everyone saying "hey if you logged in to the gmod server your ip was logged" 140k of them + however many of the original 10k are inactive/ alts will not think about it for more than 5 seconds, but for those who WERE actively playing on the server, it would be nice to know that their was potentially a leak of an IP which CAN provide the user with an idea of where you live in the world if they had isolated you to an area where only your IP is logged.

1 guy had it, sent a censored image to his friendgroup, which was a fuckup on his part yes.
you think the government makes it clear about every threat that comes there way? no, they'd scare the shit out of everyone all the time
should we/rubik have told everyone? it's arguable i guess, just on our end, we don't want to shit the bed by scaring everyone for an issue that wasn't abused ya know? it was disclosed, and patched, and nothing bad came from it! if mr vbov was ddossing/leaking these, then yes, 100% make a statement, but it was never abused from what we know.

 

 

1 hour ago, Opila Bird said:

Multiple of us have dmed rubik or messaged him in the discord asking about when this would be resolved, and when nothing ever came of it, it was decided the best course of action was to let the community weigh their own thoughts in on it, which has lead, consistently, to a disavowing of what the staff team and rubik himself chose to do, and thanking tene for making this major issue known.

dming rubik sucks ASS my brother, he's way too busy most of the time to respond regularly.
My question for you, without any fluff, is what do YOU guys want specifically, X member banned? X things changed?
Caleb's on probation [I assume you wanted this to be a Comm Removal?]
MarkCX Is on Probation after being confronted to henchy. [I assume you wanted this as a Comm Removal as well for making jokes about being 'Damn Genetics' refering to the forbidden files]
Henchy Pushed for a ban, Rubik veto'd and placed a Probation instead in an attempt to settle the waters [either way, in-game bans do nothing to these individuals]
Legacy got 6 monthed
Kilo, Sixnut, Vbov, and Bill are all permad, and more or less gone from the community as a whole.
im just, personally confused on what you [or the community in this case] wants in regards of Accountability

I'll also apologize for my hostility in my last post, me, the staff team, and rubik are all genuinely so tired of all this drama, and we want it to end, so let's have a civil, regular discussion.
If you want, impore in my dms on discord -> sanzurostova
I'll gladly hear you out and confer with my fellow staff following this, Im usually available for most of my day so i can have longer conversations with you.


 

 

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1 hour ago, Opila Bird said:

according to the sanzu, staff abuse, cheating, IRL trading, and rape jokes are equal to leaking the personal info of a member of the community acquired via a RAT. Not acknowledging that the cheating player is directly associated with the group that did this.

Sanzus response of "anyone with concerns of their private information potentially being mishandled that doesn't like how we handled it can fuck off" was a very poor response. Watching these threads carefully it surely looks like a lot of trying to cover themselves, and obviously the people of the community aren't going to be alright with that. 

 

Take what happened, learn from it, and do better next time. Don't tell the community to go fuck themselves.

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1 hour ago, Opila Bird said:

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according to the sanzu, staff abuse, cheating, IRL trading, and rape jokes are equal to leaking the personal info of a member of the community acquired via a RAT. Not acknowledging that the cheating player is directly associated with the group that did this.

image.png?ex=68fcf2fc&is=68fba17c&hm=543
Before titsrp had the discord guild tag added, it was at 10k members, meaning 140k of the members are only in the server because of the tag being added, so if you ping everyone saying "hey if you logged in to the gmod server your ip was logged" 140k of them + however many of the original 10k are inactive/ alts will not think about it for more than 5 seconds, but for those who WERE actively playing on the server, it would be nice to know that their was potentially a leak of an IP which CAN provide the user with an idea of where you live in the world if they had isolated you to an area where only your IP is logged.

image.png?ex=68fcf37f&is=68fba1ff&hm=c5a
Multiple of us have dmed rubik or messaged him in the discord asking about when this would be resolved, and when nothing ever came of it, it was decided the best course of action was to let the community weigh their own thoughts in on it, which has lead, consistently, to a disavowing of what the staff team and rubik himself chose to do, and thanking tene for making this major issue known.

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If this solution is seemingly so simple, why was this not the course of action to resolve it.


I've played on titsrp for nearly a decade and it's gotten to a point where i'm more and more uncomfortable logging in to the server and interacting in the discord by the day because of a couple of power users are allowed to run around and do whatever they want. Any group that is well known to be doxxing and spreading leaked dms acquired by RATing, as well as pulling IPs with an exploit, all while hacking, and repeatedly alting with almost no pushback (banning bill, the chosen scapegoat, who hasn't actively played on the server in over a year, and has been known to make dozens of alts to troll for multiple years at this point isn't actually stopping anything). I've seen you and rubik repeatedly mention how vbov is banned, but why is it never mentioned the fact that he was not banned for pulling IPs, and was never going to be banned, in fact getting PAID for the exploit. His ban, when it did come, was for cheating, which everyone knew was going to come eventually. The ban was blatantly obvious to any player who has been in the loop the past year or 2, as he had been banned for cheating twice before then, was still active in his own cheating/ exploit server (which multiple of the cx members, the admin henchy, and various other players of titsrp are members/ mods of) as well as an active member of tuss cheat client discord. This cult of personality that has sprung up around a group of cheating, doxxing, drama mongering users that have done nothing for the server but make people want to leave for multiple years now is going to slowly erode the server. You may not realize it now, but if this continues people will stop being comfortable being part of the community, much less logging in to the server. For many of us, this is a last ditch effort to get some sort of accountability in the community that we have been a part of since we were children, wishing to not see it become a twisted effigy of the server we've put countless hours, and dollars, in to.  For any staff reading this, I implore, before you say this is just the big bad hivemind coming to stir up drama, just take 10 minutes to look at the replies, as well as reactions to the posts. You will see users who would never associate, or even say they like any of us in a million years who all seem to be on the same page, despite our many past issues.

As for rubik, anytime me or any other user has tried to message him about any of our issues the response is almost always something about wanting to avoid/ not take part in drama, but ignoring drama isnt avoiding it. When the same players are continuously causing issues on the server it gets to a point where ignoring it is just proliferating it, and anything aside from removing them entirely is accepting it. I wish to see this server continue to thrive until gmod itself is down to its last players, but this can not happen given the current state. As for the claims of drama mongering, this is the last I will speak on this subject in any capacity. Rubik, the staff team, and the community as a whole has seen the big picture and will come to their own conclusions and make their own decisions, I just wish the decisions made can be in line with what will ensure the safety, security, and longevity of the community, its users, and the server.

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shoutout to tunk

https://imgur.com/a/25Oo8xz - images in order because i used discord to upload them

that thing is so cute i want one

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2 minutes ago, cobaselic said:

Sanzus response of "anyone with concerns of their private information potentially being mishandled that doesn't like how we handled it can fuck off" was a very poor response. Watching these threads carefully it surely looks like a lot of trying to cover themselves, and obviously the people of the community aren't going to be alright with that. 

 

Take what happened, learn from it, and do better next time. Don't tell the community to go fuck themselves.

Yeah that was my fault, my fellow staff held me accountable, I do apologize for that, no excuses here.
I'd love to have a discussion with yalls, that isn't on the fourms for specific faster-response times, discord's always an option if you wanna yap my ears off!

 

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