Tuckle is warned for FailRP as Terrry says "MRDM is ok when no one is looking" WHAT?

[Crumcrocs]

1 hour ago, Tene said:

hello im directly involved in the sit as i am the reporting player.

the evidence you linked that suggests its ''allowed'' clearly states exactly what terrry says; if someone reports someone, then it becomes an issue. If someone mass rdms and no one reports it, you do not get banned for it. This has been known, and we've had 3 smod discussions about it back when i was smod, each time agreeing that RDM, IRDM, MRDM etc is ALLOWED unless there is a report on the player.

Yes, you can mass rdm, but if you get a report, you are banned. That is what terrry is saying in this sit.


Please read the whole of ironfish' post "Staff allow them as long as they are NOT REPORTED and are a PUBLIC BASE. if you adhere to those TWO things, you SHOULD be able to do this for free.

its strange if you try and play this off as an accident too, as you have an english degree, so you should know how to read and comprehend what ironfish said. you intentionally not following what he said and only abiding by half his ruling is quite funny.

You did not adhere to these 2 things, only one of the 2, and in your own clip show that you were skybasing for 2 hours whilst building this, not as a preacher. you do this often and have a verbal from terry. imo as ex-smod and reporting player the warn is valid.

(also im not sure why u include our dms in here like it proves anything, u claimed someone was cheating on his girlfriend cause he told u there are pics of u online, and that u romantically rejected him because he said that? quite silly from u big 24.) 

all the dms from discord being used as evidence is troll because if u look into any of those situations its literally you lying about someones life/making false accusations to defame/get a reaction out of them. textbook drama mongering but i respect it, you like ur attention.


 

  

so you're +1 even though she clearly went against what ironfish said - and as you've said yourself, read the whole thing, as long as they are NOT REPORTED. she was reported. how is terry in the wrong? 

  

  

targeting by taking my sit. social bias by ? -- btw if you feel the person taking your sit is biased you're allowed to request a different staff member to take the sit, this was not done so im not sure how the bias argument comes out after she is warned, nor was any mention or hint of bias shown in the sit.

He showed a complete understanding of the post he reacted to, because he clearly explained what the post meant, and how ironfish also said that if there is a report the base is not allowed, the same with how RDM is allowed until there is a report. You can rdm your friend all you want but if he reports you the staff member will deal with it. tuckle wasnt given an ''a-ok'' ironfish said to use preacher job otherwise u can make it a public base but risk being reported for it.
warn was just.

 

  

to talk about biased is 1 thing but this lazy of a reply from a moderator shows a lot.
It also just doesnt make sense, ''you clearly knew what you said was wrong especially as a smod'' ??????? what does this mean. thank god the staff team are giving comprehensible replies when giving their VOTE. lolol

 

Honestly at this point there is stacks and stacks of evidence of you constantly harassing this specific player and you are a big part of the problem. i personally think you shouldnt have even thought of bringing yourself into the situation. weeks of messing with this player and they have proof i may add is completely childish and i completely disagree with everything you said and what was your exact issue with tuckle basing up there other then the fact it was that specific player?

[AflictoGaming]

1 minute ago, crumcrocks said:

Honestly at this point there is stacks and stacks of evidence of you constantly harassing this specific player and you are a big part of the problem. i personally think you shouldnt have even thought of bringing yourself into the situation. weeks of messing with this player and they have proof i may add is completely childish and i completely disagree with everything you said and what was your exact issue with tuckle basing up there other then the fact it was that specific player?

and why he didnt have a problem with the other player who had one?

[Crumcrocs]

6 minutes ago, AflictoGaming said:

and why he didnt have a problem with the other player who had one?

Exactly its player harassment at this point. its childish and theres no need for any of it on the server and you most definitely know better then to go out and do that shit. its tragic and completely uncalled for tene.

 

Edited April 4, 2024 by crumcrocks

[Opila Bird]

9 minutes ago, LexiBird said:

so if I break ANY rule on the rules list and there is no report made then it's allowed.

If you break a rule that is clearly not affecting anyone, then yes, not every rule.
 

 

10 minutes ago, LexiBird said:

someone makes a pe** joke in ooc or talks about gross things in ooc

This very obviously has NOTHING to do with the original situation. If someone is rdming their friends over and over and no one reports clearly no one will care. The situation you brought up is not comparable in any forum.

 

 

8 minutes ago, crumcrocks said:

Honestly at this point there is stacks and stacks of evidence of you constantly harassing this specific player and you are a big part of the problem. i personally think you shouldnt have even thought of bringing yourself into the situation.

If tuckle wants to report tene then that is her own decision. Just because someone has had issues with someone in the past doesnt mean that they cant make a sit on them for breaking rules. If terrry and tene both had beef with eachother, but terrry then RDMed tene that doesnt stop tene from calling a sit on him, thinking thats how it works is confusing to me.

 

8 minutes ago, AflictoGaming said:

and why he didnt have a problem with the other player who had one?

Theres many reasons he wouldnt have an issue with the other base, the main one I can think of, it didnt take up the entire roof and the walls and roof of it didnt go up to skybox preventing you from going on top like tuckles did.
 

[Crumcrocs]

3 minutes ago, bugman said:

If you break a rule that is clearly not affecting anyone, then yes, not every rule.
 

 

This very obviously has NOTHING to do with the original situation. If someone is rdming their friends over and over and no one reports clearly no one will care. The situation you brought up is not comparable in any forum.

 

 

If tuckle wants to report tene then that is her own decision. Just because someone has had issues with someone in the past doesnt mean that they cant make a sit on them for breaking rules. If terrry and tene both had beef with eachother, but terrry then RDMed tene that doesnt stop tene from calling a sit on him, thinking thats how it works is confusing to me.

 

Theres many reasons he wouldnt have an issue with the other base, the main one I can think of, it didnt take up the entire roof and the walls and roof of it didnt go up to skybox preventing you from going on top like tuckles did.
 

Personally tene can report tuckle thats all well in fine i think the reason behind why it was reported is different then what you listed. Like i said with everything thats been going on everything thats been said and done me witnessing that entire group with terry and them messing with tuckle none stop without fail its gone beyond just silly reports. Either way i think the warn was completely invalid. agree to disagree but theres just no reason for any of the stuff thats been going on and unacceptable and i see nothing wrong with tuckles base it didnt bother anyone but this player and tuckle has had this base up for days and he just now decides to report it for no reason other then it was just a public base which was on top of the tunnel and connected to the ground .

[Tene]

9 minutes ago, crumcrocks said:

Honestly at this point there is stacks and stacks of evidence of you constantly harassing this specific player and you are a big part of the problem. i personally think you shouldnt have even thought of bringing yourself into the situation. weeks of messing with this player and they have proof i may add is completely childish and i completely disagree with everything you said and what was your exact issue with tuckle basing up there other then the fact it was that specific player?

stacks and stacks of evidence of me doing what exactly? weeks of messing with them? please show any of this proof. im not adding myself into the situation, i MADE the report.
How I am targetting here is insane. The thing you're on about was 1 day of me talking to them and I am fine to provide all of my screenshots to that situation if you want me to. That situation if anything is Tuckle playertargetting and harassing user Frisco, LYING that he was romantically interested in her and LYING that he was actively cheating on his girlfriend to try and date her. She then went telling everyone that he did this, claiming she had evidence for the entire situation, I went into her dms asking for this evidence (because shes saying in gen chat dm if u want the proof), i received the proof and argued (i guess?) about this, because shes actively lying about my friend to make him look like a bad person for attention.

please show any of this evidence before making a random ass claim like this, its not relevant to the appeal (even if i was targetting her how does that make her situation any different?) and its a claim you made with no backing. you are a moderator, act like one.

What was my exact issue? She is skybasing as non-preacher job with her pathway in fountain, blocking off the entirety of the top tunnel. Is this reasoning good for you? She's breaking a rule in the motd when she knows better. 
again, ''weeks of messing with this player''. where have u got this info from lol (i know u sit in vcs with her but how is it weeks of shit it was 1 day which ive already explained)

 

 

16 minutes ago, AflictoGaming said:

and why he didnt have a problem with the other player who had one?

so my report on player A should not be taken into account because i did not report player B? if she thinks its targetting she can call a sit, but after that sit i couldnt be bothered to call another one because her voice is annoying and made me remember why i dont call sits. (this is not a joke nor is it disrespect)
''DO NOT take rule violations into your own hands, someone else breaking the rules doesn't mean you get to and you can be punished too''


 

 

14 minutes ago, crumcrocks said:

Exactly its player harassment at this point. its childish and theres no need for any of it on the server and you most definitely know better then to go out and do that shit. its tragic and completely uncalled for tene.

 

this is a warn appeal, not a tene hate thread. you have no evidence (and if u do i think u should make a report). what exactly is childish, you're a moderator and you think me calling a sit for a player breaking a rule is childish. i hope you hold this energy in situations where your friend is not the person being reported.
The fact you've turned this thread into a name and shame where you are blaming other people for HER rulebreak goes to show how biased you are. 


 

 

3 minutes ago, crumcrocks said:

 Like i said with everything thats been going on everything thats been said and done me witnessing that entire group with terry and them messing with tuckle none stop without fail its gone beyond just silly reports.

you're again referring to the frisco situation where she lied about my friend. This was a 1 day thing and after Rubik said in general to stop talking about it, I stopped (until you guys brought it up again). Non-stop without fail - where? This is my first interaction with tuckle ingame since I came back to being somewhat active, how am I non-stop messing with her lol, again 0 evidence of this and you're blaming others to make up for her rulebreak when its just her fault.

 

6 minutes ago, crumcrocks said:

Either way i think the warn was completely invalid. agree to disagree but theres just no reason for any of the stuff thats been going on and unacceptable and i see nothing wrong with tuckles base it didnt bother anyone but this player and tuckle has had this base up for days and he just now decides to report it for no reason other then it was just a public base which was on top of the tunnel and connected to the ground .

you are clearly biased here, ''theres just no reason for any of this!'', erm.. refer to points above
So tuckle's been breaking this skybase rule for DAYS? Wtf. Im so glad i reported it, shes a serial rulebreaker. ''No reason other then it being a public base'', no i reported it because its a skybase. I think the motd states it quite clearly so I'll let you check this one out and make your mind up as you are a moderator who somehow passed the staff app
 

• You cannot have a sky-base unless you are playing Preacher. Building on rooftops that are not explicitly part of the base do count as sky-bases.

[Flexi]

16 minutes ago, bugman said:

If you break a rule that is clearly not affecting anyone, then yes, not every rule.
 

 

This very obviously has NOTHING to do with the original situation. If someone is rdming their friends over and over and no one reports clearly no one will care. The situation you brought up is not comparable in any forum.

 

 

If tuckle wants to report tene then that is her own decision. Just because someone has had issues with someone in the past doesnt mean that they cant make a sit on them for breaking rules. If terrry and tene both had beef with eachother, but terrry then RDMed tene that doesnt stop tene from calling a sit on him, thinking thats how it works is confusing to me.

 

Theres many reasons he wouldnt have an issue with the other base, the main one I can think of, it didnt take up the entire roof and the walls and roof of it didnt go up to skybox preventing you from going on top like tuckles did.
 

 

1. how did me skybasing affect Tene? Even if there was something, he said nothing other than "it breaks the rules". And it's clear player targeting because someone else was doing it and he did not report them. He wanted to be a karen against me personally.

 

2. And this does, I'm using your logic of "well it was reported so it's wrong" and turning it on its head by showing how that can be exploited. If you can't see that then I am concerned that you're an admin. Critical thinking is a skill you should have.

 

You being ride or die for them right now is very transparent and concerning. I bring a valid concern with proof and you take their side 100%. Many other staff agree.

 

Why aren't you more neutral or at least attempt to be more neutral on this?

[Flexi]

"serial rule breaker" - Tene

I only have 1 verbal warning prior? I've read the motd and follow the rules.

 

didn't you try to dox me a few days ago? You jumping immediately on this post to defend your Papa Terrry and to interact with me is a yikes.

[Opila Bird]

1 minute ago, LexiBird said:

2. And this does, I'm using your logic of "well it was reported so it's wrong" and turning it on its head by showing how that can be exploited. If you can't see that then I am concerned that you're an admin. Critical thinking is a skill you should have.

pedo accusations/ comments are harmful to players, the community, as well as against the gmod server ToS(we would get shut down if we didnt punish it). Two friends rdming eachother isnt, simple as that. If someones friend RDMs them and they decide to report then the other player will be warned as it was a rulebreak, no matter how petty. 

 

4 minutes ago, LexiBird said:

You being ride or die for them right now is very transparent and concerning. I bring a valid concern with proof and you take their side 100%. Many other staff agree.

 

Why aren't you more neutral or at least attempt to be more neutral on this?

I agree with them and disagree with you so I would obviously be on their side. Im not sure why you think disagreeing with you is bias, but agreeing with you somehow isnt.

[Flexi]

 

5 minutes ago, bugman said:

pedo accusations/ comments are harmful to players, the community, as well as against the gmod server ToS(we would get shut down if we didnt punish it). Two friends rdming eachother isnt, simple as that. If someones friend RDMs them and they decide to report then the other player will be warned as it was a rulebreak, no matter how petty. 

 

I agree with them and disagree with you so I would obviously be on their side. Im not sure why you think disagreeing with you is bias, but agreeing with you somehow isnt.

you ignored 1. Why?

 

I could not make point 2 any clearer. People can still be harmed even if it isn't reported. Especially if a staff member is witnessing it. But they won't intervene because it's technically not reported. That is my whole point. I'm trying to show that your line of logic and rule set is inconsistent and shaky at best. I'd recommend you edit the rules considering I'm not the only one who has issue with this whole "oh if it's not reported" bullshit.

 

3. Transparent af