warn appeal

[ASH (2)]

6 minutes ago, Hyder said:

yeah i never created a warrant, as far as I knew you only need one if the base has a locked door or keypad or something like that. they have people walk into that base all the time. I could be wrong but I thought thats allowed?

Theres a keypad in the video sent. Bro made something up and said it

[Quas]

1 hour ago, Developer said:

it didn't affect the sit at all and I was more than reasonable as you have 4 RDM Warns in the past 4 days!

 

I didnt realize you said this: No I dont. I dont know where you got this from but I have not gotten 4 warns in the past 4 days, lol. I dont know if you are trying to be blatantly dishonest or you made a mistake, but that cannot be true

[Chessmond]

2 hours ago, Hyder said:

yeah i never created a warrant, as far as I knew you only need one if the base has a locked door or keypad or something like that. they have people walk into that base all the time. I could be wrong but I thought thats allowed?

What you did would be counted as a raid since you trespassed. 

[vbov]

some of the arguments that ash made make no sense,

 

but from the clip i saw dev1 put and from reading its rdm so no reason to get removed. -1 on removal of the warn

[AflictoGaming]

12 hours ago, Developer said:

Thanks for making this report. You are correct, with the MOTD stating "MOTD states: In order to defend a base, you must be on the front doors of the base OR inside of the base before raid starts". 

 

However, as shown in the clip here: 

 

1) You were not on the front doors of the base

2) You were not inside the base before the raid starts

 

Making this a valid warn for RDM. I also don't see any correlation with Hyder and I sharing a CC together, it didn't affect the sit at all and I was more than reasonable as you have 4 RDM Warns in the past 4 days!

 

I will be a -1 for removal of your warn.

Sorry this video shows right here that the warn was valid. I will have to be -1

[Mr. Burns]

After looking at everything, and considering every possibility, I will have to be a -1 for a warn removal.

 

In the MOTD, it states this.
"Cops require a valid warrant in order to raid a base. Raiding a base without a warrant is FailRP unless the door is open and they have committed a crime"

From the video shown, Hyder ran into the open base as there was an illegal entity, a lootbox. You do not need a warrant for this, and considering you were not on front doors (if you happen to have any proof disproving this please either reach out to me via DMs or put it here) or inside the base before the raid had started, this makes the warn valid in this scenario.

[Wilhelm Panderino]

This was actually my base. These replies have me very confused.
Are you not allowed to assist your party member against a raid?  This server has always allowed party members to defend a raid as long as they are in earshot when they kill the raiders. Has something changed? If something has changed, warn is valid. Correct me if im wrong but if nothing has changed regarding party members defending raids, then this is a nothing burger and you should remove this blasphemous warn!

[Ironfish1]

40 minutes ago, Wilhelm Panderino said:

This was actually my base. These replies have me very confused.
Are you not allowed to assist your party member against a raid?  This server has always allowed party members to defend a raid as long as they are in earshot when they kill the raiders. Has something changed? If something has changed, warn is valid. Correct me if im wrong but if nothing has changed regarding party members defending raids, then this is a nothing burger and you should remove this blasphemous warn!

As of now if your party member is being raided you must be on doors to assist in defending the raid, or your party member must be damaged to which you can then kill them after pressing your Party Assist bind.

[Enowapi]

2 hours ago, Wilhelm Panderino said:

This was actually my base. These replies have me very confused.
Are you not allowed to assist your party member against a raid?  This server has always allowed party members to defend a raid as long as they are in earshot when they kill the raiders. Has something changed? If something has changed, warn is valid. Correct me if im wrong but if nothing has changed regarding party members defending raids, then this is a nothing burger and you should remove this blasphemous warn!

party members can assist in defending if they are on doors or already inside b4 "raid" starts, not walking by and see someone there

[Quas]

11 hours ago, vbov said:

some of the arguments that ash made make no sense,

and mine dont? I feel like everyones points are being properly addressed besides mine. Something thats important is to uphold due diligence on both sides, including the guy who made the appeal.

 

I will write this out, and I will write it well so there is no possible way I can be misunderstood, mostly so I can close this appeal knowing that I said what I wanted to say, not because I seek to antagonize any of you or imply that you are stupid:

Yes, in a 2 dimensional realm I RDMed Hyder, as soon as Developer posted that clip I apologized for the mistake. I thought that he raided through the back sewer entrance, I had no clue he was hiding in the back of my base by walking in the front door seconds prior, and this is the main reason why I believe the warn should be removed.

Another notable reason is that Hyder was breaking the rules being in my base in the first place, he had no reason to be in my base in, or out of RP. Mav claims that lootboxes are an illegal entity because weapons can be acquired through them, but a couple problems with this is

1. Lootboxes are only mentioned in one rule of the MOTD, and it DOES say they are considered entities, but never are they mentioned to be illegal. 

2. CPs are able to purchase and open lootboxes whenever they please, and are even encouraged to by earning XP.

3. Nowhere in the MOTD does it say that weapons/guns are illegal, just that the possession of one without a firearms license is illegal. Raiding a base purely off of the existence of a lootcrate that MIGHT have a gun in it is very silly, and I hope we all know that.

 

I dont even care that he broke a rule against me, my observation of Hyder breaking a rule isnt meant to be me saying "Erm, aksually, he broke a rule too! warn him!" its just to further help my case, I dont want him warned, I want mine gone. the only reason I would ever want Hyder warned is if the warn stays on my account, not to be spiteful or be a dick but simply because its fair.