PENIS RETARD 69 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 In-Game Name dick ass 420 Your Steam ID STEAM_0:0:19770258 Why were you banned or warned? "Broke NLR in a raid / Loopholing" Why should you be unwarned/unbanned? Banned without any evidence of wrongdoing. The raiders thought that because they were raiding my base they should just shoot at me on sight while I was across the suburbs, waiting for the raid to end. I fired back, killed them, and salt ensued. jewann was not willing to accept my explanation and called it "loopholing" which kind of just seems like a copout because they didn't want to look at the evidence. The guy accusing me of breaking NLR didn't have any proof but I'm guessing the admin sided with him because he was from a large group. Who warned/banned you? jewann How long were you warned or banned for? 2 days Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/14293-banned-for-self-defence/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuel Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 So you admit to spectating a raid after dying? He can by all means kill you in the vicinity. I don't think it's loopholing because on your part it's blatant RRDM and spectating a raid after dying. Quote Going back to the outside of your base after you die in a raid to watch the raid. NOT ALLOWED Huge -1 I don't know the entire sit but if you're saying that's not NLR, and you're coming back after dying, that could by all means be a ban. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/14293-banned-for-self-defence/#findComment-96209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENIS RETARD 69 Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share Posted August 23, 2020 I mean if someone shoots at me I can shoot them back? They should have just called an admin for spectating. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/14293-banned-for-self-defence/#findComment-96213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuel Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Cobaselic said: Or, you shouldn't have returned to spectate a raid. It is breaking NLR. You wouldn't have been shot at if you were following the rules. This. You're totally in the wrong, and maybe there's some info you're leaving out? I would've normally just verballed for spectating but maybe loopholing could be considered Failure to comply which is a 1 to 3 day ban? Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/14293-banned-for-self-defence/#findComment-96215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGerbs Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 I am really not a fan of banning for NLR. That being said depending on your warn history that could change. I feel like there's details being missed here. I feel as if in-fact he was far enough away they shouldn't have been allowed to kill him, however that doesn't justify him breaking NLR either. Im remaining NEUTRAL until more details come around. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/14293-banned-for-self-defence/#findComment-96216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENIS RETARD 69 Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share Posted August 23, 2020 I dont have any warns as far as I know so it was a little bit on the nose to get smacked with a 2 day ban. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/14293-banned-for-self-defence/#findComment-96218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewann Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, PENIS RETARD 69 said: I mean if someone shoots at me I can shoot them back? They should have just called an admin for spectating. You're already admitting that you did something warranting a staff member to intervene, you should never knowingly do this. You are in the wrong here. 23 minutes ago, PENIS RETARD 69 said: I dont have any warns as far as I know so it was a little bit on the nose to get smacked with a 2 day ban. https://gyazo.com/986f7201c7c9af7823613f216bf29662 You had 2 bans in the past 10 days, and this is the third, when combined with your attitude during the sit, I believe the ban is warranted. https://gyazo.com/9eac1ba9e4a15e96eb33d9333b7dd926 (MOTD stating that what you did is wrong) You should never return to the area in which you died. Just in case people actually believe you were reasonably far away from the base, I have a screenshot of your first damage location. https://gyazo.com/5503b0577ec13e8ea36c66fb00645a17 You were all the way into the alley adjacent to your base when the first instance of damage occurred. You should never be within this area after dying during a raid defense. In general, if you die somewhere, you should stay well away from it. After returning, you killed all 3 raiding members. Your return makes no sense in the context of an rp situation. 3 people broke into a house, and killed a resident, but then a few moments later, that same resident ran towards the house, and even killed the people who had already killed him. You have had two one day bans before this, which means you have had two full 24 hour periods of reflection upon your own infractions of our rules, but still couldn't understand the basic concept of NLR. You have been playing for long enough to know that what you did should never be done, and still had the audacity to call me dumb for pointing out why you were wrong during our sit. I'll leave this up to give you a chance to respond, and let other staff give their opinions, but as of right now, I do not see any reason to unban you or reduce your ban. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/14293-banned-for-self-defence/#findComment-96220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENIS RETARD 69 Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share Posted August 23, 2020 For one I didn't call you dumb. you also never stated the reason of "never returning to the area when you died" in the ban reason OR in the admin sit. You are literally making it up as you go along to try and justify your crappy handiwork. I also explained to you multiple times that they begun shooting at me from range but did not land any shots until I walked over to them. I don't understand why you have to make the situation more complicated than it is to justify a simple mistake. It seems rather convenient to leave all of our conversation out of the picture when you're the one with access to the logs, not me. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/14293-banned-for-self-defence/#findComment-96222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuel Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, PENIS RETARD 69 said: For one I didn't call you dumb. you also never stated the reason of "never returning to the area when you died" in the ban reason OR in the admin sit. You are literally making it up as you go along to try and justify your crappy handiwork. I also explained to you multiple times that they begun shooting at me from range but did not land any shots until I walked over to them. I don't understand why you have to make the situation more complicated than it is to justify a simple mistake. It seems rather convenient to leave all of our conversation out of the picture when you're the one with access to the logs, not me. Your behavior in this appeal alone should cause it to be denied. I think you need this time away Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/14293-banned-for-self-defence/#findComment-96223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payanskii Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 After consideration, I’ll be DENYING your application. With the information provided in the replies above, your ban is indeed warranted. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/14293-banned-for-self-defence/#findComment-96224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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