Harry Fargus Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Mirobel Walter West STEAM_0:0:42923271 I was banned because I was allegedly trying to crash the server, when really I was just only making an abstract building. I should be unbanned because not only was I doing nothing wrong, but the admin who banned me did not even give me a chance to explain myself, despite me offering to undo all the props. The person who banned me was Cobaselic McStubbins. Sort of hard to present evidence if I'm already banned. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/11844-unjust-banabusive-admin/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 If what cobaselic is saying is true then this ban is justified. Prop abuse CAN lead to server lag at the very least and nobody likes that. I'll leave this open to get some more feedback from people that witnessed what happened. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/11844-unjust-banabusive-admin/#findComment-80963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venderson Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 He did indeed have large cubes in the air however these were only mildly obstructive and was certainly not enough to crash the server nor did it seem like that was his goal. He also did remove the blocks upon being asked a few minutes before he was banned. Personally, this doesn't seem at all worthy of the punishment he received as I've seen people place far more obstructive props. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/11844-unjust-banabusive-admin/#findComment-80964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venderson Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 The cubes were high enough to only be obstructive towards jump swept users and these blocks were one of the least obstructive constructions I've seen in a while. If you recall from a few days ago with the meat man who had large spires of meat all around the fountain and past PD and he suffered no such ban despite it being far more likely to cause lag and be obstructive. Personally, the punishment seems far to harsh as he genuinely didn't seem like it was his goal to crash the server (if it was why to remove the cubes on request?) I'd personally give him another chance and if he does it again then hand out a ban. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/11844-unjust-banabusive-admin/#findComment-80966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Wasn't present, but from what I know, prop size has little to no strain on the server even if you reach prop limit, with the exception of collisions. The only way this sort of build could cause some major issues to the server would be if it was spawned with advdupe and set to unfreeze after spawning. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/11844-unjust-banabusive-admin/#findComment-80967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toeslurper24 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Venderson, in reference to what you said; also being a mod who has had A LOT of people try to crash the server, the issue with what you're saying is that essentially your point is "The server wasn't crashing yet so he shouldn't have been banned". We don't WANT the server to crash, which is why we have preemptive systems in place to alert us on suspicious prop activity like spamming. We are supposed to stop it before it happens, crashing the server is one of the worst offenses and if a moderator believes the individual is attempting to crash the server then action SHOULD be taken. I will speak to Cobaselic on this as I am interested to hear more on this. However, if he removed the props on request and did not do it again, I would say the ban is not justified, just my opinion; which mind you, I was NOT online during this Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/11844-unjust-banabusive-admin/#findComment-80968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Fargus Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 A good admin would let somebody explain themselves before instantly bringing them back from the sit, rather than preventing them from talking. A very similar case happened with "A Fuckin Homeless Dude", where you didn't let him speak a single word practically. I was cooperating with you, I don't understand why you feel a ban is necessary when I complied. You genius, you. Also not sure if I'd call a ban directly after my very first sit "justified", especially after complying. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/11844-unjust-banabusive-admin/#findComment-80970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuckin' Homeless Dude Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I'm not making an appeal. I'm not eager enough to see you again to do that. I talked over you amd told you that you didn't need to speak because when I asked for context of why I was in a sit, you stated the obvious like what job he was and etc. to which I told you that I was talking to him, and waiting for him to type because HE KNOWS WHY HE REPORTED ME, NOT YOU. You took much offense to this (Which I really didn't mean) and pulled up your big boy pants telling me how necessary your presence was to the sit. If you observed the sit, I was fully cooperative to the opposing party, and because of you trying to be an alpha male and talk me down; I never figured out why I was even there, didn't get to read what he typed even because you simply would not shut up. But this isn't about me, this is just for the record. Walter here "dindu nuffin" he spawned like 13 cubes probably, no way it'd lag the server, and it never did, all it did was piss off Cornelius or whatever this dork's name is, no way a perma ban is justified for that. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/11844-unjust-banabusive-admin/#findComment-80972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 The end result should be this.. If you were unbanned would you do it again? Do you see why Cobaselic would issue a ban for this? It's not personal but not knowing you on a personal level your actions could have been seen by a staff member as prop abuse (which is usually done in an attempt to crash the server). Hopefully you understand why he did this and will not hold it against him personally. I also hope that both parties would learn from this situation and make some changes. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/11844-unjust-banabusive-admin/#findComment-80973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Fargus Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 I had no sinister intent to begin with I'm not trying to write an essay on how I'll be a good boy from now on I literally righted my wrong after getting berated by Mr. Big Man here. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/11844-unjust-banabusive-admin/#findComment-80978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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