Randy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Your In-Game Name: DEV Randy Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:626528334 Who are you reporting?: Door STEAM_0:0:197127465 Why are you reporting this player?: No staff in-game at time of report. They raided and attempted to kill me when I had a building sign up. Do you have evidence related to this incident?: Yes Relevant Info: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/m7NFtLPbeO1wD7ADx?invite=cr-MSxkWDQsNTA5NzQzMjkx&v=0 https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/m7NsnX2WBeL5ixXPp?invite=cr-MSxNbXcsNTA5NzQzMjkx&v=0 https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/m7NrqUu97a2RhZA84?invite=cr-MSw3anYsNTA5NzQzMjkx&v=60 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/24631-door-raid-when-i-had-building-sign/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vex Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Alright this wasn't a raid but a hit. You are allowed to carry out a hit when a player(s) have a building sign up. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/24631-door-raid-when-i-had-building-sign/#findComment-174227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-800-Suicide Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 16 minutes ago, Vex said: Alright this wasn't a raid but a hit. You are allowed to carry out a hit when a player(s) have a building sign up. This is incorrect. Raiding to do your hit is still raiding. You can see this via the rules within the mercenary section Generally if the door was open and the hitman came in and killed him I don't think anyone sees that as a problem but Door tries to open the door, then equips a skeleton key to unlock it and kills him. He then lies about the door being open in ooc. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/24631-door-raid-when-i-had-building-sign/#findComment-174229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, Vex said: Alright this wasn't a raid but a hit. You are allowed to carry out a hit when a player(s) have a building sign up. You may place a ‘building’ sign outside which prevents you from being raided. Do not spawn, drop, or use illegal or raidable entities (including lootboxes) with a building sign up, otherwise the sign is null and void and you can be raided. ‘Building’ signs must be clearly visible at all times and near the main entrance to your base. Use font size 30 or larger. The following jobs are allowed to raid their target only to carry out job functions. They may not interact with entities inside the base Hitman My building sign during this incident was using font size 80 with Door not denying that there was a building sign on the property when it was claimed there was a building sign during his raid in OOC. There is nowhere in the MOTD, rules or job descriptions that declare you are allowed to raid or complete a hit on a player inside their property that has a Building sign up. Under what circumstances have you declared that this was not a raid? I am genuinely curious regarding your statement as in the rules under Illegal Activities it states: Raiding: Having the intent to invade another person's home. Whether you're being harmful or not, trespassing someone else's house should be considered a raid. If you leave the district for any reason your raid is over. As there was a Building sign outside the property and I am fairly certain the door was locked at the beginning of the clip, although I cannot confirm whether or not this was true, you would imagine that it would mean the property owner is currently building and does not wish for other players to raid them. As I was the property owner during the time, I did not wish for anyone to enter my property as I was building. This would constitute "trespassing" should anyone enter my property whether they were being harmful or not. If the door was open and he killed me when he was outside of my property, with him never entering the doors, then that would have been completing a hit without constituting a raid. As he did enter my property and 1-800-Suicide commenting on this post that Door had used a skeleton key to unlock the door, whether or not this is true or false, a raid was declared as he entered the property with the full intent to kill me. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/24631-door-raid-when-i-had-building-sign/#findComment-174231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopamine Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 ok i dont want to deal with people who get this petty, please give me a warn and call it a day - Door 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/24631-door-raid-when-i-had-building-sign/#findComment-174234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kert Kobean Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Yeah when you use a skeleton key and invade someone's base like that it is considered the beginning of a raid, if you listen closely you can hear the interaction take place on the door right before he entered. Once you have to step inside someone's base as hitman or anyone with a hit active to kill them, it becomes a raid even if your target isn't the entities. (Think raiding PD to kill the mayor). Since Door is fine with the warn I'll go ahead and close this out in the next 24 hours unless anyone else has anything they would like to add on. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/24631-door-raid-when-i-had-building-sign/#findComment-174236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue. Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 hours ago, 1-800-Suicide said: This is incorrect. Raiding to do your hit is still raiding. You can see this via the rules within the mercenary section Generally if the door was open and the hitman came in and killed him I don't think anyone sees that as a problem but Door tries to open the door, then equips a skeleton key to unlock it and kills him. He then lies about the door being open in ooc. This is correct, the way it is generally seen is if you can complete the hit without doing any actual raid actions (e.g. unlocking a locked door, breaching spas, or prop destruction.) then its fine but if you have to do any of those things then its not allowed. Since door performed raid actions for the hit, I will be +1 for a warn despite the lack of warns or bans on this player. 4 hours ago, Randy said: If the door was open and he killed me when he was outside of my property, with him never entering the doors, I will say that if he had walked in without doing any of the above raiding actions, it would be considered fine. So if you had a completely open base, and he walked in and killed you, it'd be allowed. 3 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/24631-door-raid-when-i-had-building-sign/#findComment-174240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorp Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Since he used a skeleton key, this counts as a raid action, and I will be +1 for a warn, as Door has no priors Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/24631-door-raid-when-i-had-building-sign/#findComment-174265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue. Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 ACCEPTED - Door will receive a warn for FailRP - Raiding a base with a building sign. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/24631-door-raid-when-i-had-building-sign/#findComment-174335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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