Crabroll Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) Im too drunk, will comment more later, but i have confirmed with my own eyes and then further checked with rubik that the coconut spektor shit was fake Edited April 21 by Crabroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconut Overflow Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 What I believe I was banned for; was the way I handled the bone report. Sewer made a report for harassment, and I flopped hard. I mishandled private information, I had bias in who I contacted, I sent private dm's that I shouldn't have, all because I thought at the time I was doing the right thing. I speculated things to the extreme when I failed to see the other side. I rushed my decision just trying to get it done and over with, when it should have been taken with better care. I felt so split from members of the team that I didn't know who to talk to and who not to talk to, and that's on me. As a head admin, there is no excuse for cherry picking and selecting opinions that I felt more comfortable with hearing, and it's a shame I couldn't realize it until it was too late. Around 5ish pm, Bone messaged me saying there was an issue, that someone was using his name in TitsRP general, and that they were sending him his own name. I did end up banning the account, however I relayed to the reporters that Bone contacted me, and sent a screenshot of the DM, which was wrong. They had no business seeing that and had nothing to do with the report they were making. With the proof I received in the reporter's group chat made me believe the harassment was there, but the biggest failure was not asking bone directly or involving the rest of the admin/smod team that I excluded. As soon as we had the smods/admins in a vc that night, we came to a conclusion in minutes, and it was handled correctly. It would have changed my perspective completely, and I limited myself from that on purpose. Lots of damage was created to people within the report (reported and reporters), and the community alike. The mess that had to be cleaned up because of my actions, I can't imagine. I'm sorry to all of you guys, and I get the hesitation to bring me back. Like I said, I'm glad to at least have had that closure. To answer the question about that image Tene, it is fake. This is what I have from my DM's. This screenshot is of that date, from me and Spektor. All of my DM's were deleted for my own privacy with an addon Ironfish taught me how to use. I deleted them shortly after Spektor was banned. The image shows a call happening a bit earlier in the day, and me and Spektor's messages that day. If it were true, you would still see Spektor's message at 06/02/2023 8:49PM, but it is not there. https://imgur.com/a/fagoyfb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconut Overflow Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tene said: final edit: isaac shouldnt be able to just overrule a pre-made staff decision on someones ban appeal being set to a specific date. isaac has a tendency to randomly overrule things to do with appeal times (haze of dream) and is just overriding decisions... wait ur time before appealing, otherwise whats the point of any staff decision ever when isaac is just going to overrule them, as per usual. To this, I don't want Isaac hit under the crossfire on this. I have no issue waiting until the correct date as per assigned. If this post is to be shut down and waited until 08/01/24 and that's what is the best move, I'm all for it. Edited April 21 by Coconut Overflow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger Flynn Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) Contrary to your first paragraph, I request you explain why you did what you did during that report and ALL of the people you spoke to during that day involving the report. You have me added on Discord still, if you wish to message me instead of a forums post my DMs are open. I believe I of all people are due this. Edited April 21 by bone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumcrocs Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) Im gonna be a -1 From when i knew you you were a chill guy but this entire situation and screenshots provided are just completely appalling man i im still on the edge on if im gonna change my answer to +1 for ban reduction but still i think with everything provided even if bone forgives you its still fucked up and you being the rank you were should have completely known better. Ill change my asnwer if a agent of change is brought to this appeal. Edited April 21 by crumcrocks overlooked bits of evidence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconut Overflow Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, bone. said: Contrary to your first paragraph, I request you explain why you did what you did during that report and ALL of the people you spoke to during that day involving the report. You have me added on Discord still, if you wish to message me instead of a forums post my DMs are open. I believe I of all people are due this. With Rubik and Suga was away at the time, I was under a lot of pressure, yet in my mind I believed it was the opportunity to not only redeem myself but do something I felt was right within the community. I ignored the red flags and thought I had it all figured out, heck even being convinced that the stuff the guy said in General about you was either someone trying to distract us from the report, or yourself. Logic was just thrown out the window... the definition of bias. Sometimes we don't know we are biassed until we reflect later on. With whom I asked, I felt uncomfortable asking close friends of you. It was a serious report and like I stated before, I didn't know who to trust and not. This is completely on me, as I should be trusting every single staff member on my team. My own delusions made me forget what's most important, why we have these procedures and guidelines in the first place. To prevent bias, and make the process fair. The irony of it all, the reason I feel I've understood this so well, is that I had images slandered of me, and how quick people were to assume I was a pedophile. Sure, I didn't do the best at defending myself at the time, but to be honest, I just didn't care to. I needed space to think on other things and take time away from TitsRP. The point is, I understand now that me going and assuming you harassed B3nz so quick was wrong, taking word and one side of things and being ignorant to the other side helps nothing. It can help be a selfish band aid in the short term, but it causes more issues than it helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger Flynn Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I'm not asking you to tell me you regretted what you did, I know that. I want you to tell me everything that happened that day, every single detail, every single person you spoke with. No "I shoulda" no "I coulda" just raw details. 4 hours ago, Coconut Overflow said: I didn't know who to trust and not. Usually when people say this they've heard from both sides, not knowing who to trust when you've got only one side doesn't make any sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconut Overflow Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 3 hours ago, bone. said: I'm not asking you to tell me you regretted what you did, I know that. I want you to tell me everything that happened that day, every single detail, every single person you spoke with. No "I shoulda" no "I coulda" just raw details. Usually when people say this they've heard from both sides, not knowing who to trust when you've got only one side doesn't make any sense. I’m not trying to downplay your question, but a lot happened that day. I’d be more comfortable with a vc with staff that are interested, if that is possible, I don’t know how anonymous you want it to be to non-staff in regards to the other players I involved. I just don’t wanna go posting 2 pages when it would be better to have questions and a back and forth rather than me ramble every detail. I am open to doing either regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tene Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, Coconut Overflow said: I am open to doing either regardless. he already said u can message him on discord if you dont feel like replying here. considering he is the guy that you doxxed i think he atleast deserves to know who you messaged and who you told what. imo posting a storyline of events on the forums post where you're appealing would make the most sense so its actually written and documented, but at the end of the day you should at the very least be messaging bone with the actual story and not just a bunch of i wishes. also you said you thought bone doxxed himself and that maybe your own admin team were responsible for the dox in gen chat because you just didnt want to put any blame on b3nz when every single piece of evidence pointed back to her being the only person who could/would have doxxed him. its not just bias, its covering for a doxxer so she wouldnt get banned and being ignorant to anything that would ban her. imo you only care about this because you got a punishment from it. Edited April 21 by Tene 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger Flynn Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 On 4/21/2024 at 8:00 AM, Coconut Overflow said: I’m not trying to downplay your question, but a lot happened that day. I’d be more comfortable with a vc with staff that are interested, if that is possible, I don’t know how anonymous you want it to be to non-staff in regards to the other players I involved. I just don’t wanna go posting 2 pages when it would be better to have questions and a back and forth rather than me ramble every detail. I am open to doing either regardless. Ok if you're open to either than there should be no problem with you doing what I requested. If your issue is anonymity I can tell you right now anyone that had participated in that event has either reached out to me or quit the server because they still think evil is correct. Don't leave out anything. On 4/21/2024 at 10:41 AM, Tene said: imo posting a storyline of events on the forums post where you're appealing would make the most sense so its actually written and documented, Did this exact thing with my community removal appeals, you for sure can do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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