HungWang Posted January 24, 2024 Share Posted January 24, 2024 -1, you trespassed into his base after watching him buy a door. You had to unmute him in that clip which shows to me you had no intention to interact with him previously. In that sit that you uploaded it was clear you were indeed being combative and rude, you also admitted to knowing that trespassing is raiding, let me quote you "Sure I was trespassing, doesn't mean I was raiding" 10 seconds later "No, I know the rule trespassing means I am raiding". Then the biggest fact, you demoted him for no reason, he had a base for 2 seconds, you trespassed onto his property, then demoted him for not selling you a gun even though you broke into his home. Not to mention that a 3 minute ban is in every way better than a warn. Sorry for no formating, I'm on my phone. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20906-appeal-for-a-bad-mod/page/3/#findComment-142846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enowapi Posted January 24, 2024 Share Posted January 24, 2024 22 hours ago, Wilhelm Panderino said: i would also like to mention, this same admin banned Hyder for 1 minute for IRDM a few minutes prior to this. I dont believe he can just pick and choose ban lengths to flex his power. mods/ admins can choose whatever punishment they feel fit, it isn't flexing any power, also under the guidelines you could of been banned for a lot longer than 3 min.. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20906-appeal-for-a-bad-mod/page/3/#findComment-142847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of the Mack Posted January 24, 2024 Share Posted January 24, 2024 (edited) While I think a ban is too much of a punishment just for false demoting (in my opinion the "raiding" as citizen doesn't matter because while yes trespassing is raiding its not like he stole or blew up anything) not cause of the length (which was only 3 minutes) but because it stays on your record forever unlike a warn/verbal which expires after 2 years. I am +1 to remove the ban off your record and add a note or warn to your account for "FailRP | False Demote" -1 for ban removal As for Ironfish choosing the punishments like banning Hyder for 1 minute I think a report should be made for more discussion about that because I don't think doing bans like that makes the staff team look good. Edit: Ive been informed that bans do indeed expire so tbh getting a 3 minute timeout is better than receiving a warn that expires in the same amount of time but can add up to a very long ban. For Ironfish going against punishment guidelines against both you and Hyder, I would recommend a report for more discussion on those matters. Edited January 24, 2024 by WantedNearby Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20906-appeal-for-a-bad-mod/page/3/#findComment-142848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2024 Share Posted January 24, 2024 5 hours ago, Wilhelm Panderino said: This player was not demoted. Therefore i never false demoted anyone You TRIED to, which is still against our rules 5 hours ago, Wilhelm Panderino said: One other thing, last night, i had 19 players enter my base as non raidable classes. I was wondering if i should report these players with steamIDs on a single report or make 19 separate reports. Thanks. As i said, i dont believe you did break a rule by entering the players base, that is why i have voted for your ban reason to be changed to not have the FailRP part in the reason 5 hours ago, Wilhelm Panderino said: proof? non compliant? what does that even mean? Because i was arguing my side im not compliant? This is why players think staff are a joke. Because they are. You were not arguing your side, you were actively ignoring the banning staff member and roasting the shit outta him for doing his work when he was informing you of what were you doing that broke our rules Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20906-appeal-for-a-bad-mod/page/3/#findComment-142849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enowapi Posted January 24, 2024 Share Posted January 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, WantedNearby said: While I think a ban is too much of a punishment just for false demoting (in my opinion the "raiding" as citizen doesn't matter because while yes trespassing is raiding its not like he stole or blew up anything) not cause of the length (which was only 3 minutes) but because it stays on your record forever unlike a warn/verbal which expires after 2 years. I am +1 to remove the ban off your record and add a note or warn to your account for "FailRP | False Demote" As for Ironfish choosing the punishments like banning Hyder for 1 minute I think a report should be made for more discussion about that because I don't think doing bans like that makes the staff team look good. it expires yes but it still stays on there Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20906-appeal-for-a-bad-mod/page/3/#findComment-142850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Posted January 24, 2024 Share Posted January 24, 2024 I am a little confused on the trespassing = raiding thing. I know what the rules say but isn't that more aimed at jobs that CAN raid? Civilian cannot raid so how are they supposed to start a raid (entering the base) when that job cannot raid anyways? I know it does happen where a civilian will raid a base and we address the issue but I am not seeing any type of raid here. I can see the argument for the false demote from both sides, raiding as a civilian though I do not agree with. I think the rules in this situation are being spun in a way they shouldn't be. If we begin to ban/punish players who are jobs that cannot raid for entering a random persons base with the front door open and didn't break anything to get inside, we are going to have a lot of unhappy people. Personally I am +1 for a verbal warning for false demotion and remove the ban. 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20906-appeal-for-a-bad-mod/page/3/#findComment-142852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enowapi Posted January 24, 2024 Share Posted January 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Smelly said: I am a little confused on the trespassing = raiding thing. I know what the rules say but isn't that more aimed at jobs that CAN raid? Civilian cannot raid so how are they supposed to start a raid (entering the base) when that job cannot raid anyways? I know it does happen where a civilian will raid a base and we address the issue but I am not seeing any type of raid here. I can see the argument for the false demote from both sides, raiding as a civilian though I do not agree with. I think the rules in this situation are being spun in a way they shouldn't be. If we begin to ban/punish players who are jobs that cannot raid for entering a random persons base with the front door open and didn't break anything to get inside, we are going to have a lot of unhappy people. Personally I am +1 for a verbal warning for false demotion and remove the ban. I personally think theres some major missing context from the OP side, if u watch the video he had the guy voice muted, which to me says something else was going on, however he did still attempt to demote and it was false so that warning was valid Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20906-appeal-for-a-bad-mod/page/3/#findComment-142853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Posted January 24, 2024 Share Posted January 24, 2024 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Enowapi said: I personally think theres some major missing context from the OP side, if u watch the video he had the guy voice muted, which to me says something else was going on, however he did still attempt to demote and it was false so that warning was valid Doctor large is known to micspam as a hobo and play dubstep and other EDM in the streets for the people to enjoy while he builds dope stuff. I don’t want to put words in anyone’s mouth but that’s my guess Edited January 24, 2024 by Smelly Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20906-appeal-for-a-bad-mod/page/3/#findComment-142854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mild Tsunami Posted January 25, 2024 Share Posted January 25, 2024 Thank you for taking the time to write out your appeal and responding to comments as well I would like to say I do not agree with the 3-minute ban I think it should have either been a kick or a longer ban. I do think what you did was wrong and you should be punished however I think it should have been a kick to start so I am a +1 for removal of the ban and a verbal added to the profile Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20906-appeal-for-a-bad-mod/page/3/#findComment-142859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Worst Dad Posted January 28, 2024 Share Posted January 28, 2024 3 minutes is a lot better than say 1-3 days. You should have taken that as a time to cool off before coming back. -1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20906-appeal-for-a-bad-mod/page/3/#findComment-142934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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