Crabroll Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) While I wouldve appreciate the appeal to include more of your standard appeal details. There are other appeals linked that go a touch further into detail so i am okay with that. I wouldve also appreciated if someone can outline what conditions were considered in the VC. A condition like that would also not be decided in a VC with a mixture of ranks. It would most likely be either derived from the comments of this appeal or from SMOD+ discussion. For me, I feel like your tone was better in the first appeal linked on this post. --> It had more of an apologetic and sincere approach than this appeal. Maybe it was the treatment and comments you got on that appeal that made you type the way you did this time but for me, my honest opinion is I dont really care if you are unbanned or not because i do not see a large impact of having or not having you on the server. So with that in mind, I will give you a +1 for unban with a condition to be added on similar to all returnees from comm removals. Seeing your replies in this forum has not given me confidence that you are ready to be incorporated back into this server. Sorry man. Editting to neutral bc ironfish showed me that i was expecting from you what i would expect from myself which is not fair. that being said i still do not give you my support to be unbanned but i dont care if you do Edited January 3 by Crabroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoebill Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I am going to +1 this appeal, I was in the VC with you, iron, etc, and you were not at all what I thought you would be. I thought you would be this cold hearted TitsRP hater, but all you did was play cop. You are extremely chill and I would be down to let you back in the community. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna_ Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) Hey do got a question why were you ban in the first place if you dont mind me questing. Edited January 3 by Luna_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze_of_dream Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Luna_ said: Hey do got a question why were you ban in the first place if you dont mind me questing. I got a good detail here https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/17387-motion-for-appeal/ but to explain shortly: It was a gradual escalation of conduct that some staff members disagreed with, CaptainT gave me a warning of reviewing how i file sits and i complied as it was a reasonable and good instruction, I later got extremely vague warnings from another staff member who mostly just posted the guidelines for toxicity punishment, with no real explanation unsurprisingly nothing happened and i was later removed for "toxicity", I assume alot of this behavior came because people knew me as a relentless officer of the law, but how one rps and one behaves should not be correlated outside of an rp context Edited January 3 by Haze_of_dream 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaselic Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 58 minutes ago, Ironfish1 said: Your original ban made no sense to me as it was first done in a vc with a verbal vote while missing half of the admin team. This is a complete lie. Haze was removed after a community meeting where the majority of the community voted him out. Don't lie, especially when you weren't around when it happened. The entire community wanted you gone so you were removed, it's honestly that simple. The biasmax discord went wild with this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironfish1 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, cobaselic said: This is a complete lie. Haze was removed after a community meeting where the majority of the community voted him out. Don't lie, especially when you weren't around when it happened. The entire community wanted you gone so you were removed, it's honestly that simple. The biasmax discord went wild with this one. Proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaselic Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Just now, Ironfish1 said: Proof? Just look in the discord logs, what do you mean? Also, it's wild how your angle is "it was decided in a vc". It looks to me that outcome of this was already decided in a VC before an appeal was even posted. You're very stupid if you didn't at least go back and look into the discord logs from around the time that he was community removed to see what was actually being said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaselic Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Trying to push this through without even looking into what actually happened and without talking to any of the community or staff that were around is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tene Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 hello we've already had this discussion before (2 times now in staff chat!). this post clearly shows that hes not allowed to appeal or allowed to return to titsrp at all. im not sure why ironfish is now overturning old admin decisions without having even READ the staff discussion about the incidents, or any of the past appeals/discussions on haze's ban himself. its been agreed by the community and the old staff team -- the staff team that actually interacted with haze and knew how he acted on the server -- that he should not return. for a ton of new staff whove never seen haze before or interacted w him, to just be like yeah we're gonna overturn this decision that was made due to community/staff decision because we never met the guy and he sounds nice in a call is retarded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opila Bird Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 7 minutes ago, LeGerbs said: every staff member that you made quit reached out to me during that time I would like some proof of this, not saying i dont believe it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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