HooDi Ban Appeal

[HooDi]

In-Game Name

HooDi

Your Steam ID

76561198135657789

Why were you banned or warned?

NLR during Raid - RDM - Player Toxicity

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned?

For starters the NLR during raid was false the raid was over as I had been rdmd by my friend and he then killed said player I came back to the general vicinity to get my gun back and that was it we literally put our guns away and started leaving the area. However the admin who banned me started shooting my party member without saying a word or anything and killed him so I then killed said admin. Who immediately respawned tpd me and jailed me and said you will be received a one day bay for NLR and RDM. I asked why and he said you came back to the raid and I politely said no the raid was over as I got rdmd I was just getting my gun. He then said no you broke NLR and were raiding I dont' care. I then said ok that makes no sense but how did I rdm?. He says you killed me for no reason and I said no you killed my party member so I killed you???. He says no you have to let me know in game chat that you are going to be killing me. Also just want to point out nowhere in your rules does it say it is required to say you are killing someone for killing your party member it is just advised to avoid a sit. After saying this and not sending me a rule I say "fucking gmod admins cant handle dying on a video game so they makeup rules" so he says ok Im extending it to 3 days for player toxicity and I say ok whatever.

Who warned/banned you?

STEAM_0:0:40538905

How long were you warned or banned for?

3 days

[Coconut Overflow]

So here is what happened from my perspective. Terrry tells me he is getting raided, so I go down to Indust to assist from the outside. I am on doors, keep in mind. HooDi has already died at this point, and he should NOT be in raid zone, but he returns anyways. I shoot his friend down, and HooDi kills me down right after (without party assist). I bring him to a sit, and he claims "There is nothing in the rules which states I need to use a party assist" and that I am wrong. After attempting to explain the ruling for about 5 minutes (while pasting the rule in the chat several times), he then makes the alibi that he was too far to be able to make the party assist, and that's just the way it goes. I claim that he was too far away, and shouldn't have made the kill, or got closer and did the assist. Regardless, he should NOT have been in that situation, because he died to his friend and did not make a sit. Just because your friend killed you during an RP scenario, does not mean that you can just return to the raid. Also, you said much more than just "fucking gmod admins cant handle dying on a video game so they makeup rules". You were very toxic during the whole duration of the sit, and me trying to explain rules to you was just you not complying and trying to find loopholes in why you were in the right. So I banned you for the RDM (you coming back and shooting me down without a party assist), NLR (returning to raid when you died), and Toxicity (read prior).

[HooDi]

9 minutes ago, Coconut Overflow said:

So here is what happened from my perspective. Terrry tells me he is getting raided, so I go down to Indust to assist from the outside. I am on doors, keep in mind. HooDi has already died at this point, and he should NOT be in raid zone, but he returns anyways. I shoot his friend down, and HooDi kills me down right after (without party assist). I bring him to a sit, and he claims "There is nothing in the rules which states I need to use a party assist" and that I am wrong. After attempting to explain the ruling for about 5 minutes (while pasting the rule in the chat several times), he then makes the alibi that he was too far to be able to make the party assist, and that's just the way it goes. I claim that he was too far away, and shouldn't have made the kill, or got closer and did the assist. Regardless, he should NOT have been in that situation, because he died to his friend and did not make a sit. Just because your friend killed you during an RP scenario, does not mean that you can just return to the raid. Also, you said much more than just "fucking gmod admins cant handle dying on a video game so they makeup rules". You were very toxic during the whole duration of the sit, and me trying to explain rules to you was just you not complying and trying to find loopholes in why you were in the right. So I banned you for the RDM (you coming back and shooting me down without a party assist), NLR (returning to raid when you died), and Toxicity (read prior).

Once again paste the rule that says it is required to put a party assist because there isn't one it says its recommended to avoid a sit, I didnt return to raid hell I never even took a gun or raid tool out, and toxicity started after you didn't hear a word I said and jumped straight into a ban, when I have no priors or warnings.

[Coconut Overflow]

4 minutes ago, HooDi said:

Once again paste the rule that says it is required to put a party assist because there isn't one it says its recommended to avoid a sit, I didnt return to raid hell I never even took a gun or raid tool out, and toxicity started after you didn't hear a word I said and jumped straight into a ban, when I have no priors or warnings.

If you're going to kill someone because they attacked your party member, you need to make sure they know you're together BEFORE you assist in a roleplay scenario. (Local chat /y) (not OOC/Advert/Voice). Not doing so will cause confusion and most likely result in a sit that no one wants. (This applies to raiding as well).

Examples of a BAD party/gang member:
-Sniping a player from across the map because his party members got mugged

 

So these two apply. Sure your friend wasn't getting mugged, but you shot me down out of /y zone, which the rule first stated requires you to do.

[HooDi]

54 minutes ago, Coconut Overflow said:

If you're going to kill someone because they attacked your party member, you need to make sure they know you're together BEFORE you assist in a roleplay scenario. (Local chat /y) (not OOC/Advert/Voice). Not doing so will cause confusion and most likely result in a sit that no one wants. (This applies to raiding as well).

Examples of a BAD party/gang member:
-Sniping a player from across the map because his party members got mugged

 

So these two apply. Sure your friend wasn't getting mugged, but you shot me down out of /y zone, which the rule first stated requires you to do.

you didn't mug him you killed him lmfao so that rule just isn't a fair example and says bad examples not that its against the rules. Also the first rule just says it will result on confusion and a sit not that it's required you killed my party member thats not even roleplay you just killed him lol

Edited February 20, 2023 by HooDi

[Tyz37]

If you kill someone without a party assist bind it is counted as RDM. Additionally the bind has to be a yell bind and you have to be within range for the player you are party assisting against to be able to see it in chat. Without all of these parts of the party assisting rule being followed, it is indeed RDM. The example is just an example for showing that sniping someone across the map is not allowed for party assisting and it does not just apply to mugging.

[HooDi]

Bro he sprayed dont my party member right next to me in what world does it make sense to have to run over to him where he sniped my boy from 5 buildings down say hey Im killing you before shooting just let gang members or whatever fight. Idk but petty ban as I have no priors reduce me pleaseeeee pretty pleaseeeeee

Edited February 21, 2023 by HooDi

[Succ The Zucc]

1 hour ago, HooDi said:

Bro he sprayed dont my party member right next to me in what world does it make sense to have to run over to him where he sniped my boy from 5 buildings down say hey Im killing you before shooting just let gang members or whatever fight. Idk but petty ban as I have no priors reduce me pleaseeeee pretty pleaseeeeee

You also returned to an active raid so realistically it doesn't matter here. Regardless of what you say about it.

 

The only thing I could say is that I want to see proof of the toxicity or that part can be removed and keep it at 3 days for just the NLR

[HooDi]

44 minutes ago, Succ The Zucc said:

You also returned to an active raid so realistically it doesn't matter here. Regardless of what you say about it.

 

The only thing I could say is that I want to see proof of the toxicity or that part can be removed and keep it at 3 days for just the NLR

Bro I have 0 priors broke NLR 1 time to get a gun back not even kill anyone he killed my party member and the rdm was for rules that just don't make sense why is it 3 days

[Succ The Zucc]

The reason I'm looking at keeping the ban length is because NLR by itself is a warn-3day ban.

 

He's within his right to make it a 3 day if he wants but that doesn't always make it right however you're not seeing where it's a rule break even after explanation which is why if he continued to try and explain and explain without you seeing how it is wrong I could see why it would end up becoming a 3 day ban. 

 

It doesn't matter why you were going back to your base it just matters because you did go back to your base whether to kill him or not. Any interactions with the players, props, guns or entities in that raid you're not supposed to touch even going near the area can be seen as breaking NLR so long as you're not just passing through.

 

I would argue the only thing here that you have for your punishment (without evidence of the toxicity) is just NLR which I'm willing to ask him to change the ban reason but his choice whether to change the time.