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orch
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In-Game Name

Kiwi420

Your Steam ID

STEAM_0:1:491050068

Why were you banned or warned?

For killing a guy who shot at me but didnt do any damage.. "RDM"

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned?

The guy who shot at me and reported me and then lied and said he didnt shoot at me, had no evidence so i dont know why i was warned "DO have some sort of video recording software if you ever report anyone"

Who warned/banned you?

byionic

How long were you warned or banned for?

i was warned for ever
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Please do I remind you that you would show me video proof of the sit of him shooting at you he did not hit nobody and it shows you killed him also I have been getting more sits after the fact about rdm I will paste the logs in a bit showing the rdm

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He made the sit, shouldnt he have to provide evidence for his accusations like the motd states bc in this situation its just word for word 

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14 hours ago, orch said:

He made the sit, shouldnt he have to provide evidence for his accusations like the motd states bc in this situation its just word for word 

Yes it's word for word but video proof helps every case and I'm pulling the logs atm

 

Player Kiwi420 (f word 12) (STEAM_0:1:491050068) killed Papa Bear Actual (Hitman) (STEAM_0:1:22855967) with weapon weapon_nonm4 <05-04-2021 / 21:55:11>

Player Kiwi420 (f word 12) (STEAM_0:1:491050068) attacked Papa Bear Actual(STEAM_0:1:22855967) (Hitman) with Golden AK47 for 29 <05-04-2021 / 21:55:11>
Player Kiwi420 (f word 12) (STEAM_0:1:491050068) attacked Papa Bear Actual(STEAM_0:1:22855967) (Hitman) with Golden AK47 for 29 <05-04-2021 / 21:55:11>
Player Kiwi420 (f word 12) (STEAM_0:1:491050068) attacked Papa Bear Actual(STEAM_0:1:22855967) (Hitman) with Golden AK47 for 29 <05-04-2021 / 21:55:11>
Player Kiwi420 (f word 12) (STEAM_0:1:491050068) attacked Papa Bear Actual(STEAM_0:1:22855967) (Hitman) with Golden AK47 for 29 <05-04-2021 / 21:55:11>
( Byonic (STEAM_0:0:94680815) Warned Kiwi420 (STEAM_0:1:491050068) for RDM Showing Logs below for the player Ids Exported STEAM_0:1:491050068, STEAM_0:0:94680815 )

Byonic (STEAM_0:0:94680815) (NOT Staff)  used command bring : {"#15",} on Papa Bear Actual (STEAM_0:1:22855967) <05-04-2021 / 21:55:44>

 

Also again shows no logs of him damaging you also he just logged on the server like 5-10 mins before

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I believe you should've recorded it, so i'm giving this a -1 for lack of evidence, for the next time, please try to record your gameplay, just in case something like this happens.

 

 

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I shouldn't have to record, nor should i have to provide evidence has i did not make the report, "DO have some sort of video recording software if you ever report anyone" 

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I think leniency should be given in situations where users claim they were shot at but there was no damage.


Currently the rules encourage you to kill people even if they didn't hit you at all. This is something to warn for if it keeps happening, but there should definitely be leniency for situations like this.

+1 for removal.

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Yeah when it comes towards word for word, I don't believe a warn should be given in that situation since there isn't any concrete evidence that it was rdm, on the other hand you also didn't give any evidence to support your warn being false. I am neutral on it being removed due to warns requiring evidence of them being false to be accepted. Also @Byonicit would've been good to check if that hitman possibly had a hit on the player, if they did its very likely he WAS shooting at him.

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From what I can see, the player Papa Bear was a Hitman so its highly possible that they were just missing their shots, it might have just been confusion as well, I'll give this a +1 for removal but next time make sure that the person was shooting at you and not someone around you. 

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