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Being banned for "countering" or in my pov getting involved in a heist


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North Bear

 

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North Bear

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STEAM_0:1:58167898

 

Why were you banned?: 

"Countering" a heist, by advertising something like "blablabla money back off of it". 

I was trying to get involved to defend my money that would suposedly still be in there.

This was later technically seen by Wrath and RARE members as mass RDM

Why should you be unbanned?:

It was not intended to be mass rdm which they wouldn't understand and the whole situation is just a loophole that they created to continue to raid the bank over and over and over. A report about those premade heists will follow later.

 

Who banned you? Wrath by request of many RARE members.

Evidence

Small bit of context;

They raided the bank two times untill I stepped in at the third time.

Wrath was owning bases piklas frequently uses, placing a dupe, "letting" them (rare members mostly) raid and then removes the dupe as they are moving the briefcases. Also unowning all doors as shown in screenshots. Also taking the bank from wrath which would be easilly freezable to begin with and going to the launderer to suposedly empty it there as shown in screenshots and wrath being like "OK"

 

The images are not orderned for some reason but there are many.

https://imgur.com/a/OCyL7

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Adverting basically a counter advert and 1 sec going in to kill everyone is NOT RP

 

As for the report we were raiding all bank managers and wrath decided to go manager, so we didn't abandon plan and kept raiding the current manager. If this was planned there would probably not be multiple c4 used, wrath doing his best to stop us from raiding and i believe he even killed some of us in a few of the raids but at the end of the day he was 1 person going against a raid party of 6-8.

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where do i start....first off the base dupes are not piklas's they are typicals and old CX bases. and at no point did he let us raid.  we had to use multiple C4 to get into the base and we would of never dont that if he was letting us. i will respond further after wraths response but considering you killed me in your counter that doesnt exist i am -1 for unban

and even if a counter was reasonable this was your advert for it https://gyazo.com/f46e1984d5d080654531132b6f31e5c7

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Stop it raiders and money should be a very well enough hint, I have not started killing everyone immediately because I was hiding behind a wall so many of them had enough time to respond, I believe some of them started to shoot back.

One thing though. If my money was still in there and someone would be stealing it, wouldn't I be involved either way? I mean they are stealing my money and I have had this discussion with a moderator before. The rules do not state this and so they are using loopholes to claim you have to be "involved".

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First of all, I did make an effort to kill them, killing quite a few of them, as well as injuring them, just because I'm buddy buddy with a lot of people doesn't mean i'm gonna just hand them the bank. I moved bases because the base that I used before was already raided, so they know how to get in, so I used multiple locations to prevent them from just raiding me successfully over and over. It's logic, if you were raided by 5-10 people, and they got in your base, would you use the same dupe? I think not. Plus they were dupes that I've bought from Typical_Quizzical_Man and some dupes from CX. I literally just put the bank in a slit for people to put money in, also asking people to go citizen to prevent Heists. Me saying ok in chat is pretty much me accepting defeat, like what can I do? I can't go back, I'm not gonna bitch about it in chat, that's not gonna change anything if I do. It's just me being mature about it and saying GG. I told you that such advert doesn't exist, so you said ok ban me, so I did.

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I have not said ok ban me


And if people raid you, you do not remove your dupe and sell your doors as people run with the bags.

 

he never removed his dupe as we were raiding we had to blowtorch out multiple times

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