MRDM Ban Appeal

[TangoMango00]

17 hours ago, Hung Wang said:

Hey Jewann, I disagree with all of this and it feels to me that you're looking at this so skewed. For your first statement, this is not an assumption and to say that is extremely silly. RDM is killing someone without a valid roleplay reason. There was no valid roleplay reason to kill two people outside of spawn 30 times without them damaging tyz once out of those 30 times.

 

Next your statement about being guilty until proven innocent. It's clear here that this wasn't guilty until proven innocent, this was "30 kills without receiving damage on two players in the span of egiht minutes" with proof. There's logs that prove he is guilty of breaking our outlined server rules. This statement follows the trend of the last: it's extremely silly.

 

On to the next, your statement of tyz giving a reasonable story and ironfish deciding he is lying. If you can convince anyone here that his story of "Oh yeah for 30 times I killed them I was lucky enough to not be damaged because they were such a bad shot" is credible, then I will be bewildered. 

 

On to your next statement, because they were holding a gun out it provides more credibility to tyz's statement. This makes absolutely no sense, every kill that happened was right outside of spawn tunnel, and your saying since they walked out of spawn tunnel holding a weapon they were definitely shooting at tyz? Are we at the point in titsrp where you cant even hold a gun out..... This statement follows the trend of the last three, which is being silly.

 

Your next statement is one I can agree with at face value, but having the context of him killing someone THIRTY TIMES I don't believe the burden of proof should be on the player reporting when staff already have that proof.

 

Your next two statements I will talk about in one. If you looked into this appeal you would notice that the player who reported him was banned by the time ironfish pulled him to the sit, meaning that shownlr would not have worked, and a spectate would not have either. 

 

On to the finale, this isn't guilty until proven innocent ban, to restate what I said earlier this is a "we have damning proof of this man MRDMing by our rules, so ban him" ban. One thing Ironfish said in his response that I agree with is that Tyz had so many different paths he should have taken, but he chose the only one that had the potential to get him banned, he walked the line and fell.

 

Next time you post in an appeal please remember that the entire image of the smod team is riding on your shoulders like the rest of us. Try to not make us look like we don't know our own rules please. I made that mistake once and I hate having to watch you do the same thing in here.

 

I am a -1 for this appeal.

idk how to do that fancy cut and paste from others people responces lol but i just want to point out that every kill was outside of spawn going to the ocean so with you saying that them walking out of spawn holding a gun shouldnt be assumed there doing wrong could also be said that if they really was just trying to move on and go do other things they could of took the other 3 exits out of spawn and that it also took those reporting 30 deaths to make a report or tyz and i really think death locations would be really helpfull here because if there deaths are right outside spawn we all know that people go in and out of spawn to avoid being killed while there trying to rdm, ive delt with this personally many times Lined this out because iron made a good point that if they where abusing spawn they would not of been dying so fast and i agree

Edited December 18, 2023 by TangoMango00

[Mild Tsunami]

I would like to start off my comment by thanking everyone that took the time to read all the comments posted so far as well as all the evidence posted! Based on the logs from Iron and the testimonial from Hobo I will have to agree with the ban it seems valid to me and I will have to -1 on the appeal.

[Tyz37]

One thing I would like to add is why is a "testimonial" allowed from someone who is a tmod that says he was spectating and saw something without evidence but a testimonial from another player who was there actively and saw them trying to rdm me does not also count.

22 hours ago, Mild Tsunami said:

I would like to start off my comment by thanking everyone that took the time to read all the comments posted so far as well as all the evidence posted! Based on the logs from Iron and the testimonial from Hobo I will have to agree with the ban it seems valid to me and I will have to -1 on the appeal.

 

[Mild Tsunami]

1 minute ago, Tyz37 said:

One thing I would like to add is why is a "testimonial" allowed from someone who is a tmod that says he was spectating and saw something without evidence but a testimonial from another player who was there actively and saw them trying to rdm me does not also count.

Hobo even though he was tmod at the time is an ex-admin for the server and I trust him whole heartedly with what he says. Just because someone is a tmod that doesn't mean we should discredit them.

[Tyz37]

On 12/16/2023 at 11:25 PM, Terrry said:

As a staff of two years you should know witnesses don't matter. 

Then I would like to quote this from terrry.

[Developer]

Due to majority being -1 (7-2) this will be 

Denied.

Next time don't kill 33 people before making a sit!

Edited December 19, 2023 by Developer