Community Removal Appeal

[Blue.]

I dont wanna make a big response since I dont even play anymore - but at the time it felt to be the right course of action with all the talking to's, punishments, and drama he was involved in, but that was a long ass time ago and while it was a "community removal" i dont see a problem with giving him a chance especially with the appeal. Would i personally be a *little* skeptical sure but thats what chances are for - to disprove anyone unsure. Most community removals could probably be overturned at some point unless its something illegal or horrid. Bone was a big dummy and shrugged off any time he was talked to or punished but hes not out here committing crimes - its gmod hes served enough time IMO. Personally I think community removals should just be appealable because a big thing with perma bans is that they dont need to be permanent. IDRC how the higher ups feel about permas being perma, things change and sometimes its just best to give an indefinite punishment until its no longer needed vs having a set time.

+1 dont be a radical terrorist

[The Worst Dad]

free my nigga b0ne he didn't do nothin he's just a little retarded

[xiers]

The staff have let other players who have alted while banned and IRL traded back into the community I'm going to be a +1 with probation. most of the plus ones are from staff who were apart of the decision, just if this does get accepted you will be kept close attention to and harsher punishments to your actions. 

[HungWang]

I too believe that alt'n recently instead of taking the ban appeal route shows you will do anything too get back into the server so I cannot trust you and do not know if you are lying just to get back into the server. there was a reason you were community removed an I think the person you have shown us to be will be more effort than its worth if you did get unbanned im sorry but it will be a -1 from me.

[�� It's Ya Boi Green ��]

I had to extend the ban to perma, so I know about the situation and stuff. b0ne should honestly be unbanned, and to see staff members -1 this app is kinda ridiculous. I don't see what the harm is by letting him back into the server and just keeping an eye on him. There were a lot of other people that did a lot worse shit than this and got their appeal accepted, so I have no clue why this one is getting treated worse than those appeals got treated. I am +1 with an unban, I don't see why some staff arent considering the worst thing he did was alt.

[Coconut Overflow]

I understand each side completely. On one hand, you have a mass amount of community members who know of b0ne. Who can attest to his nature and can say confidently off of the chest that b0ne won't be an issue. It's absolutely fantastic to see the community coming together to defend something they are so passionate about. Great points are brought, it's a video game, and the application shows promise. I think one thing that should be observed here on all sides, is that this isn't just some random guy appealing some wack events. This is a player who is missed, who players crave back. There's gotta be a reason for that, right?

On the flip side, everyone needs to understand that, these staff are trying their best to understand the situation. They only have access to so much. Most of our s-mod team had no idea who b0ne really was until this appeal was made. They had... what, two days to get an entire glance at who this man was, and his intentions? On face, the dude broke a lot of rules, not to mention recently alting in game. They don't have the attachment to him as a lot of the community members here share. It's a lot easier to give an opinion on lists of bans, forums history, and what they have been told. Their job is to keep TitsRP safe, and they want to make absolutely certain they are making the right call.

All in all, everyone has great points. I don't want anyone to feel like people are posting without having thought into this, because that's the opposite of the truth. They want what's best, and sometimes they just need a little patience and guidance from the community itself. To anyone here, always keep an open mind, and always see the other side. Let's work together to figure this out.

 

Edited September 21, 2023 by Coconut Overflow

[Coconut Overflow]

Oh, and I'm +1 for unban. #FreeB0ne.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Coconut Overflow

[Crabroll]

https://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk?si=tbLFMHt9pZyaVmQ7

 

[TangoMango00]

i remember playing alittle before you where comm removed and you deff was just a troll and minge, i get most people can change and maybe you have but you have a  very long history.  People keep saying we let people who have done worse back or theres people who have done worse and are still playing but most where not comm removed just banned or perm banned, i feel like people dont get comm removed for small things , thats a huge difference imo. Also you have been comm removed before and yes it was accepted but this is just another reasion i feel like you shoulda changed before and stopped the trolling , trust me im all for trolling and being funny but it seems like you just take things to far and dont know when to stop. if anything i have said here is inaccurate or not true please lmk but my vote will have to be a -1 for now

 

 

 

[Ironfish1]

      I would like to address a couple of things here. I sat on my thoughts for a while before coming to this decision, I will be a -1 for an unban. One thing that doesn't make sense to me is that majority of the people telling us to unban him are no longer a part of the staff team, through demotions or resigning. Either way you guys should know just as well as we do that a community removal is a serious thing. The SMod team we have currently is by the books and extremely professional. Something like undoing a community removal where there is a lot of evidence supporting the fact that this man was very toxic is worrying. I find it perplexing that he was community removed, then six months later it's gung-ho for his unban. Why not just give him a sixth month ban for toxicity? Many of you have suggested that this staff team has a sheep mentality, or it's ridiculous to -1 this appeal. I think the exact opposite. All we have to go off of are these four things: 1) This person was community removed for toxicity. 2) This player has 17 valid bans and 29 warns. 3) When Bone was reached out to about being banned his immediate response was to act disinterested, and get a last jab in by calling three of our community members pedophiles. Evidence is here 4) Your opinions. One glaring issue here is that the facts outweigh the opinions by a decent amount. TL;DR: Don't community remove someone that you'll want back in less than six months.

 

     After speaking to some community members about this situation, I have come to change my opinion on the appeal. I will be a +1 for an unban and for you to be put on a probationary period. There were a couple of mistakes in my original message that I would like to apologize for; the first being the pedophile accusations. I was made aware that you were insinuating that those three community members were friends with a p*do. I don't want to sit here and argue the lesser of two evils when it comes to those accusations so I'll move on to my next mistake. I did not take in to account how recent those warns/bans would be so the numbers were off, my apologies. Finally, this is a community removal for player toxicity, if the same players that were around back then are asking for you to be unbanned, then where is the issue. We staff for the community, we don't staff over the community. The worst that can happen is you get banned again, the best that can happen is we regain an old time community member.

 

Best Regards,

Ironfish1

 

Edited September 22, 2023 by Ironfish1
Spoke to kilobyte and wanted about this situation