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Your In-Game Name:

SylphicXen

Your Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:34125752

Who are you reporting?:

gmail (STEAM_0:1:243454476), UwUchan (STEAM_0:1:83964407), Biggie Bear (STEAM_0:0:26394019)

Why are you reporting this player?:

Toxicity, Harassment, and Inciting a highly controversial topic in OOC

Do you have evidence related to this incident?:

Yes

Relevant Info:

(will post evidence inside the body of the post; if anyone knows how to spoiler text so it's not a giant wall, please let me know and I will edit the post)

This is a repost of the previous thread which can be found here. I'll go user by user since I will admit, 600 lines of chat logs is a lot. (Though in my defense, I was mostly expecting people to ctrl + f it like I did.)

 

For context (and this is all just a nutshell since I don't think the exact specifics matter), beforehand it was mostly everyone shooting the shit and talking conspiracy theories in OOC. (A whole lot of talk about Epstein's island, the war in Ukraine, etc.) followed by a talk on religion and how the Christians abandoned God because they don't stone the gays anymore, but the Muslims do and so they haven't abandoned God. (I didn't really care, sounded like bullshitting or joking to me.) Then the topic of satanism and Baphomet came up, followed by the topic of masturbators, homosexuals, trans people, and so on. Close to this time, the user Hex (STEAM_0:1:67970096) got namedropped in particular which Hex did not take a liking to. After that, that's when things really started to head up so that's where I start with specifics and going by each user and their offenses. As always, if you want to or have the time to, I have a more thorough chatlog in the original thread, but as I said it came down to over 600 lines.


Upon calming down from the initial "I hate everyone and you all can burn" kind of anger I felt earlier, I will point out that at no point did anyone specifically say not to talk like that anymore. For that reason, and upon more calmly rereading the chatlogs, I have also adjusted the reasonings in the report.

 

The most of anyone asking to drop the topic beforehand was people asking stuff like "what is this topic?" at first, and then eventually showing stark disagreement with the opinions of the others. If you do want them, here are some tiny snippets of people showing disinterest or dislike of the topic being discussed. (EDIT: Oh yeah, almost forgot to mention. The snippets are posted in chronological order, but be sure to read from bottom to top in each individual snippet, since the full chat logs are in reverse chronological order)

 

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Player An Ordinary Citizen(STEAM_0:0:733706382) (Citizen) said (OOC) New words to describe social phenomena appear throughout history all the time. <31-12-2022 / 21:18:43>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Citizen) said (OOC) yikes wtf did i come back to <31-12-2022 / 21:18:35>
Player izzgy(STEAM_0:0:183486990) (WILDIN) said (OOC) call me kyle dahmer <31-12-2022 / 21:18:25>

 

--[Around this point was when things started to heat up (I'll get more into that when talking about specific infringements upon rules) so there were a lot more calls from people to knock off the topic]--


Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) So why do you broadcast yourself ??? <31-12-2022 / 21:36:24>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) hex you defended showing drag queens to children <31-12-2022 / 21:36:19>
Player Phroggie(STEAM_0:1:59806997) (a custom class 2 ) said (OOC) why are yall so obsessed? Is it really that much to let someone just live their life? fuck off <31-12-2022 / 21:36:17>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) dude i just want to be left alone <31-12-2022 / 21:36:07>
Player SylphicXen(STEAM_0:1:34125752) (Waifu) said (OOC) we always are now-a-days lol <31-12-2022 / 21:36:05>
Player thwompwomp(STEAM_0:0:43605312) (a custom class 2 ) said (OOC) Are we seriously talking about this again? <31-12-2022 / 21:35:58>

Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) penis/testicles/XY chromosomes? <31-12-2022 / 21:35:43>

Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) shit talking trans people <31-12-2022 / 21:37:44>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) I still have the caht logs <31-12-2022 / 21:37:34>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) hex literally said little boys should be able to wear dresses if they want <31-12-2022 / 21:37:33>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) You guys have spent the past like 5 fucking hours <31-12-2022 / 21:37:29>

Player Terrry(STEAM_0:0:200680242) ( ) said (OOC) whos "we" <31-12-2022 / 21:38:06>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) shut up for like 5 mins and give ooc some damn PEACE <31-12-2022 / 21:38:03>
Player Terrry(STEAM_0:0:200680242) ( ) said (OOC) hey hex <31-12-2022 / 21:38:01>
Player An Ordinary Citizen(STEAM_0:0:733706382) (Bounty Hunter) said (OOC) Biggie that was more people taking advantage of your tendency to get sucked into an argument and ranting for hours. <31-12-2022 / 21:38:01>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) We do not care <31-12-2022 / 21:37:53>

There was other instances of people asking to drop the subject, but that will come later in this report under UwUchan's section.

 

Now, I'll start going user by user on rules I feel they have broken or things they have done wrong.


I'll start with gmail. I think that gmail broke these rules: "DO be respectful to everyone LOL OMG", "DO NOT be a dick, we are all here to have fun and play the game", and "DO NOT use racial/homophobic/generally offensive slurs or be overly offensive to other players/staff.". All three kind of tie in together of course.

 

I'll start with the specific lines of him disrespecting trans people, including one case of the word "tranny" which is like the n word or f word for trans people. People are gonna joke around in the same way I've seen people use the n word and f word around these parts and people don't care much about it, and I don't expect that to change, but given the context I think it's relevant as by this point (many hours after the initial debate started) it was quite clear that there are trans people in the server playing.

Here are some specific lines, bold and italicized:

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Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) damn you terrry this is your fault <31-12-2022 / 21:31:00>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) ^ <31-12-2022 / 21:30:45>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) trannyphmet <31-12-2022 / 21:30:42>
Player assmunchin667(STEAM_0:1:555224850) (Citizen) said (OOC) baphomet is top g bro <31-12-2022 / 21:30:41>
Player An Ordinary Citizen(STEAM_0:0:733706382) (Bounty Hunter) said (OOC) Are you trying to apply human concepts like gender to Baphomet? <31-12-2022 / 21:30:30>
Player shell(STEAM_0:0:210427316) (liquidator) said (OOC) you're literally using a computer <31-12-2022 / 21:30:26>

Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) they are autogynephiles that get turned on when they put on panties <31-12-2022 / 21:31:50>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) Masturbation is proven to cause brain damage <31-12-2022 / 21:31:36>
Player Ben Dohvur(STEAM_0:1:111241767) (Benny) said (OOC) rekt <31-12-2022 / 21:31:24>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) they are probably chronic masturbators and homosexual <31-12-2022 / 21:31:21>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) lol <31-12-2022 / 21:31:20>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) just steppd on one blewup my whole base <31-12-2022 / 21:31:13>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) no they arent <31-12-2022 / 21:31:12>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) I setup landmines in your last raid <31-12-2022 / 21:31:06>
Player shell(STEAM_0:0:210427316) (liquidator) said (OOC) the trans people on this server are closer to god than you will ever be <31-12-2022 / 21:31:05>


Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) penis/testicles/XY chromosomes? <31-12-2022 / 21:35:43>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) i would call hex by the correct pronoun but itll call an admin on me and get me warned for toxicity <31-12-2022 / 21:35:38>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) So were you born a man? <31-12-2022 / 21:35:31>
Player shell(STEAM_0:0:210427316) (liquidator) said (OOC) using anon chat cuz you're a pussy <31-12-2022 / 21:35:24>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) I am not a she <31-12-2022 / 21:35:22>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) Yeah can we stop calling me she <31-12-2022 / 21:35:18>
Player shell(STEAM_0:0:210427316) (liquidator) said (OOC) hex has never been problematic <31-12-2022 / 21:35:17>
Player kio(STEAM_0:1:212953763) (ESP user) said (OOC) you dont need to add it as a law <31-12-2022 / 21:35:02>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) there he is again <31-12-2022 / 21:34:58>
Player assmunchin667(STEAM_0:1:555224850) (Citizen) said (OOC) ikr lmfao <31-12-2022 / 21:34:58>
Player kio(STEAM_0:1:212953763) (ESP user) said (OOC) thats already a rule Mayor <31-12-2022 / 21:34:54>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) so i dont blame you <31-12-2022 / 21:34:52>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) well everyone who is spewing this shit is <31-12-2022 / 21:34:46>
Player assmunchin667(STEAM_0:1:555224850) (Citizen) said (OOC) okay im done , this chat is making me retarded <31-12-2022 / 21:34:33>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) remember that hex guy saying that thats just expression <31-12-2022 / 21:34:21>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) drag queen story hour* <31-12-2022 / 21:34:03>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) and hide it from the parents <31-12-2022 / 21:34:00>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) public schools when they start implementing tranny propaganda <31-12-2022 / 21:33:51>

Player Terrry(STEAM_0:0:200680242) ( ) said (OOC) 30k EACH <31-12-2022 / 21:33:51>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) Meanwhile in america: transgender story hour <31-12-2022 / 21:33:48>

 

Outside of those specific instances, gmail kept the controversial topic going for some time, but I don't see specific rules against that. Eventually, I did call a voteban on gmail and it passed, as I figured after things heated up and people were wanting it to stop, that getting rid of gmail would be the quickest way to go about that. That was not the case, as it continued anyways, but I'll get more into that with the next users since at this point gmail was gone from the server.

 

Next, I'll go over Biggie Bear, since he was there from the beginning and was continuing (and engaging) in the topic. Upon review, it was Biggie Bear that actually brought the topic back up in this snippet of text:

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Player assmunchin667(STEAM_0:1:555224850) (Citizen) said (OOC) okay im done , this chat is making me retarded <31-12-2022 / 21:34:33>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) remember that hex guy saying that thats just expression <31-12-2022 / 21:34:21>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) drag queen story hour* <31-12-2022 / 21:34:03>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) and hide it from the parents <31-12-2022 / 21:34:00>
Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) public schools when they start implementing tranny propaganda <31-12-2022 / 21:33:51>
Player Terrry(STEAM_0:0:200680242) ( ) said (OOC) 30k EACH <31-12-2022 / 21:33:51>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) Meanwhile in america: transgender story hour <31-12-2022 / 21:33:48>
Player assmunchin667(STEAM_0:1:555224850) (Citizen) said (OOC) but how else do i teach him to be a top g alpha male like me? <31-12-2022 / 21:33:45>
Player Terrry(STEAM_0:0:200680242) ( ) said (OOC) SELL ME WATER BARRELS <31-12-2022 / 21:33:42>

However, I don't see any specific rules against continuing a controversial topic. The only thing he did wrong here specifically is continuing a topic that really should have stayed dead. With that being said, I know I got very, very angry at Biggie Bear but upon rereading the chatlogs it became clear to me that he wasn't the one saying a lot of the stuff I thought he was.

 

For that, I owe you an apology Biggie Bear. Most you did was disagree with me which isn't against rules. I don't agree with your opinions, but as far as I can tell you didn't do anything against the rules there. For real though, keep them topics out of OOC, ya fuckin goober.

 

Alright, and finally UwUchan. I did him last as he wasn't apart of the original topic and hopped in the server around the time gmail got votebanned. I think that like gmail, UwUchan broke these rules: "DO be respectful to everyone LOL OMG", "DO NOT be a dick, we are all here to have fun and play the game", and "DO NOT use racial/homophobic/generally offensive slurs or be overly offensive to other players/staff."

 

In UwUchan's case, after the topic was starting to die down they were mostly shitposting and trolling with it.

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Player Easygoing(STEAM_0:0:460139597) (Easygoing) said (OOC) IT DIDNT WORK <31-12-2022 / 21:44:53>
Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) i love running trains on trannies ig you can say im a  tyrant <31-12-2022 / 21:44:42>
Player kio(STEAM_0:1:212953763) (Mega Jew Cop ) said (OOC) why it takes 2 seconds to type it <31-12-2022 / 21:44:25>

Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) trans topic <31-12-2022 / 21:46:41>
Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) im toxic <31-12-2022 / 21:46:37>

Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) what do you need uwuchan <31-12-2022 / 21:46:34>
Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) fuck biggie <31-12-2022 / 21:46:30>
Player An Ordinary Citizen(STEAM_0:0:733706382) (Bounty Hunter) said (OOC) The terrorist job allows you to be KOS by everybody. <31-12-2022 / 21:46:27>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) I mean I try to stay within the borders of not being banned <31-12-2022 / 21:46:25>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) huh <31-12-2022 / 21:46:24>
Player kio(STEAM_0:1:212953763) (Mega Jew Cop ) said (OOC) hehehaha <31-12-2022 / 21:46:14>
Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) trans <31-12-2022 / 21:46:14>
Player kio(STEAM_0:1:212953763) (Mega Jew Cop ) said (OOC) just dont get reported <31-12-2022 / 21:46:12>
Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) hex <31-12-2022 / 21:46:10>
Player kio(STEAM_0:1:212953763) (Mega Jew Cop ) said (OOC) you can biggie <31-12-2022 / 21:46:09>
 

Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) ik i just wanna make sylphicxen mad <31-12-2022 / 21:48:21>
Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) Isn't the american military giving transgender people surgury/hormones for free? (paid by taxes) <31-12-2022 / 21:48:21>
Player SylphicXen(STEAM_0:1:34125752) (Waifu) said (OOC) drop the subject <31-12-2022 / 21:48:10>
Player SylphicXen(STEAM_0:1:34125752) (Waifu) said (OOC) bruh <31-12-2022 / 21:48:07>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) uwuchan that doesnt make sense though <31-12-2022 / 21:48:05>
Player kio(STEAM_0:1:212953763) (Mega Jew Cop ) said (OOC) trans = male only fans <31-12-2022 / 21:48:00>
Player wilma(STEAM_0:0:45942648) (xoxo) said (OOC) anyone got a maxed gang i can join <31-12-2022 / 21:47:53>
Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) trans = more money for greedy murican health system <31-12-2022 / 21:47:43>
Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) im just tryna enchant some weapons <31-12-2022 / 21:47:01>

That last snippet shows them specifically using the topic because they knew it'd annoy me. After this, they were still continuing the trans topic in OOC despite further, specific calls for it to be dropped. Here are some specific examples of people actually asking for the subject to be dropped:

 

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Player Biggie Bear(STEAM_0:0:26394019) (Plebeian) said (OOC) Isn't the american military giving transgender people surgury/hormones for free? (paid by taxes) <31-12-2022 / 21:48:21>
Player SylphicXen(STEAM_0:1:34125752) (Waifu) said (OOC) drop the subject <31-12-2022 / 21:48:10>
Player SylphicXen(STEAM_0:1:34125752) (Waifu) said (OOC) bruh <31-12-2022 / 21:48:07>

Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) uwuchan that doesnt make sense though <31-12-2022 / 21:48:05>

Player thwompwomp(STEAM_0:0:43605312) (a custom class 2 ) said (OOC) ^ Agreed <31-12-2022 / 21:49:41>
Player Phroggie(STEAM_0:1:59806997) (a custom class 2 ) said (OOC) nah its toxic and shouldnt be happening <31-12-2022 / 21:49:33>

Player Hex(STEAM_0:1:67970096) (Weapon Modifier) said (OOC) it's been like this all day <31-12-2022 / 21:49:29>
Player thwompwomp(STEAM_0:0:43605312) (a custom class 2 ) said (OOC) Fr <31-12-2022 / 21:49:24>
Player Coconut Overflow(STEAM_0:0:40538905) (Wickett) said (OOC) ooc do be feisty tonight <31-12-2022 / 21:49:18>

Player An Ordinary Citizen(STEAM_0:0:733706382) (Citizen) said (OOC) Give it a rest. <31-12-2022 / 21:57:51>
Player kio(STEAM_0:1:212953763) (Mega Jew Cop ) said (OOC) LMAO <31-12-2022 / 21:57:43>
Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) TRANS TOPIC <31-12-2022 / 21:57:38>

Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) FUCK YOU PHROGGIE <31-12-2022 / 21:58:27>
Player izzgy(STEAM_0:0:183486990) (WILDIN) said (OOC) wont take one for the team tho <31-12-2022 / 21:58:22>
Player An Ordinary Citizen(STEAM_0:0:733706382) (Citizen) said (OOC) It is a long tired topic. <31-12-2022 / 21:58:21>
Player Phroggie(STEAM_0:1:59806997) (a custom class 2 ) said (OOC) can yall stfu? <31-12-2022 / 21:58:19>

Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) same <31-12-2022 / 21:58:05>

At this point, I would say that unlike the two users above who were continuing drama that nobody had specifically asked them to drop (hence why I don't think they were breaking any rules), there were multiple people asking for it to be dropped at this point, to no avail. For that reason I think UwUchan was being extremely toxic.

 

That's all for this rewrite of the report for now. If I think of anything else, I'll be sure to make a reply.

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Oh yeah, I do want to clear something up though since this was not clear in how I worded the original. I was going to talk to someone about this all regardless of what anyone said, as I did not feel it was right to be targeting specific people with topics like that.

 

Hex had nothing to do with this report. Hex did ask me to make this report, nor did Hex suggest that this report be made. If anything, I spoke to an admin on duty at the time to ask if they had access to the logs from before they joined the server, and they said no, suggested I export the logs, and report it on the forums instead. That was Insurance Agent who made that suggestion.

 

I was flamed by some people (and someone even flat out said no one cares tranny) for making the report, and on some points, they had some reason to. I wasn't clear enough about that in the start so it looked like I was using a specific person to try getting them banned. I want to be clear though, that despite being more generalized in this report, I do still think Hex was a victim of harassment, and I do still think that's completely wrong and unacceptable. 

 

I think that will show in the snippets I did provide, though.

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1 hour ago, SylphicXen said:

Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) i would call hex by the correct pronoun but itll call an admin on me and get me warned for toxicity <31-12-2022 / 21:35:38>

obviously knew not to be talking about it and continued anyways. i mean if i tell someone well "i cant say what i want because im not supposed to call you a retard" i kinda just did by stating that directly towards them.

 

1 hour ago, SylphicXen said:

Player gmail(STEAM_0:1:243454476) (Meth Cook) said (OOC) trannyphmet <31-12-2022 / 21:30:42>

slur

1 hour ago, SylphicXen said:

Outside of those specific instances, gmail kept the controversial topic going for some time, but I don't see specific rules against that.

causing a hour long (at the least) argument in ooc falls under causing drama. that said these logs seem to be near the end but i do recall this argument being active an hour or so prior at least when i was online but it was not as heated as it is above.
just from what we have in logs here it seems to me that he was
A. Causing drama in ooc
B. trying to annoy/harass hex and/or other people who identify as trans as a whole. (the whole not being a dick rule etc.)
C. Toxicity over the slur if that is considered a slur from what i was told when a friend and i almost got warned over calling someone it earlier this year
+1 for punishment
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logs seem to show time from 21:18 till 21:58 feel like this may have been going on before then to some degree but unsure about how late sylphic joined into it.
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1 hour ago, SylphicXen said:

Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) trans <31-12-2022 / 21:46:14>
Player kio(STEAM_0:1:212953763) (Mega Jew Cop ) said (OOC) just dont get reported <31-12-2022 / 21:46:12>
Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) hex <31-12-2022 / 21:46:10>

 

1 hour ago, SylphicXen said:

Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) ik i just wanna make sylphicxen mad <31-12-2022 / 21:48:21>

shows both players hes directing it at for us.

 

1 hour ago, SylphicXen said:

Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) i love running trains on trannies ig you can say im a  tyrant <31-12-2022 / 21:44:42>

 

1 hour ago, SylphicXen said:

Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) trans topic <31-12-2022 / 21:46:41>
Player UwUchan(STEAM_0:1:83964407) (WILDIN) said (OOC) im toxic <31-12-2022 / 21:46:37>

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not really a ton said here other than the train comment and singling out who everyone's talking about, with just what is in this report i would say barely a +1 HOWEVER
UwUchan dragged this shit show into the discord and continued to argue in gen chat along with other users, all upset about having the initial report made and pretty sure i had to tell them to can it. which as far as im concerned is definitely contributing to the drama as was ingame and i feel something should be done since they took it upon themselves to lash out in the discord after a report was made against them.

A. Causing drama - specially when you feel the need to continue it out of spite for the report
B. Toxicity over trannies training comment
C. Player targetting to a light degree, they themselves made it clear they wanted to annoy sylphicxen at the least. and continued to do so by dragging it into discord getting other members such as Cursed and Goatnuts to keep the topic alive.
+1 for punishment
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as for biggie i was wrong to +1 on him in the other post as-well, was mainly due to some other stuff i witnessed after getting back online that occurred at the ass end of what happened above and isn't quite as relevant to the rest of this and he got verbal in-game.

-1 for punishment

Thank you for resubmitting this it is a lot easier to follow in its current state and i applaud your efforts do dig through that mess of logs i saw in the first report

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For harassment there needs to be a sit made/report a warning first then a note describing the situation then going from there while this could be severe enough to get to a ban on the first account that should be talked with by all staff members before a final say is given. 

 

Overall the issue at hand I won't comment on as everything I say in terms of speech on the server falls on deaf ears anyways so I won't waste my time and I'll mark this as a +1 for everyone on harassment except for Biggie. 

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Damn insurance laid it our pretty nice here - It's clear both Gmail and UWU were being instigators - gmail being the worst in this situation. I will mention as others have mentioned in this kinds of situations. You guys should have muted and dropped the subject completely after you made it clear you didn't want to continue. I feel like a LOT of players REFUSE to take this approach because they can't let their ego go. It's a video game - these are people you will never see what they say to you means nothing in the end. (not downplaying their toxicity) Yall have to just step up and move on in these kinds of situations - let them dig their own graves by not responding. Gather that evidence and stay neutral - it puts you in the positive light. I understand you tried multiple times to drop the subject but there were times were you kept responding feeding into their drama. Even if you are just saying something like "i'm just tryna enchant some weapons" giving them any response at all encourages them to keep going @TheRealHex


I am +1 for a warn for both Gmail and UwU as they both approached the situation in a manner to cause nothing but problems.
 

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35 minutes ago, Blue. said:

Damn insurance laid it our pretty nice here - It's clear both Gmail and UWU were being instigators - gmail being the worst in this situation. I will mention as others have mentioned in this kinds of situations. You guys should have muted and dropped the subject completely after you made it clear you didn't want to continue. I feel like a LOT of players REFUSE to take this approach because they can't let their ego go. It's a video game - these are people you will never see what they say to you means nothing in the end. (not downplaying their toxicity) Yall have to just step up and move on in these kinds of situations - let them dig their own graves by not responding. Gather that evidence and stay neutral - it puts you in the positive light. I understand you tried multiple times to drop the subject but there were times were you kept responding feeding into their drama. Even if you are just saying something like "i'm just tryna enchant some weapons" giving them any response at all encourages them to keep going @TheRealHex


I am +1 for a warn for both Gmail and UwU as they both approached the situation in a manner to cause nothing but problems.
 


I appreciate your response. You do certainly have a point to not feed to trolls so to speak, but we're only human and sometimes we get caught up in the drama ourselves.

 

I think I said this in the last thread as well, but I plan to mute gmail and UwUchan at the least since I get the impression this won't be the only time these topics get brought up by those two.

 

With that being said, since I did see it and gather evidence on it, I do think some of the things they said are punishment worthy for breaking rules not only on disrespect and slurs, but as you said instigation.

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48 minutes ago, Blue. said:

You guys should have muted and dropped the subject

they were asked to stop in one of the sections in above post, im sure the mute didnt happen. that said one of them got votekicked for spurring on the drama that should have been an obvious cut that shit out moment aswell. but since most of the server can start a votekick no one much cared. also looks like sylph got rating bombed over this

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On 1/2/2023 at 2:07 PM, Blue. said:

Damn insurance laid it our pretty nice here - It's clear both Gmail and UWU were being instigators - gmail being the worst in this situation. I will mention as others have mentioned in this kinds of situations. You guys should have muted and dropped the subject completely after you made it clear you didn't want to continue. I feel like a LOT of players REFUSE to take this approach because they can't let their ego go. It's a video game - these are people you will never see what they say to you means nothing in the end. (not downplaying their toxicity) Yall have to just step up and move on in these kinds of situations - let them dig their own graves by not responding. Gather that evidence and stay neutral - it puts you in the positive light. I understand you tried multiple times to drop the subject but there were times were you kept responding feeding into their drama. Even if you are just saying something like "i'm just tryna enchant some weapons" giving them any response at all encourages them to keep going @TheRealHex


I am +1 for a warn for both Gmail and UwU as they both approached the situation in a manner to cause nothing but problems.
 

I agree with blue on this one. +1 from me for warns on gmail and uwu.

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