Sticks Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 In-Game Name Sticks Your Steam ID STEAM_0:0:84586685 Why were you banned or warned? FailRP/Minging/Exploiting/Toxicity Why should you be unwarned/unbanned? I did not break any rules. I was playing poker and received a hit on one of the other people who was playing poker at the time, I followed through with the hit, and was banned for it. Who warned/banned you? Smelly How long were you warned or banned for? 7 days 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Hi! Posted in the Discord: Quote Hey everyone, I just banned sticks for "FailRP / Minging / Exploiting / Toxicity (Will discuss further with staff)". He was playing a poker game with Special Educator and had a hand in the poker table for 1M and Special was going to win the hand. They were raising the bet back and forth. Sticks raises from the poker table, takes a hit for Special Educator and kills him immediately causing him to time out of his hand and losing the bet and money he had raised with which totaled to 1.2M. Special asked Sticks why he did it, and sticks response was "I'm above the rules" Special Educator has video which is being uploaded to YouTube but he screenshared the video with me. He said he will post an appeal and I will keep an eye on that but wanted to let everyone know the situation Here are some rules that apply to your situation: Quote Being scammed 1 Mil or more DarkRP cash or any amount of Suga Dollars is subject to review and punishment. DO NOT Minge DO NOT be a dick, we are all here to have fun and play the game DO NOT attempt to loophole any rules. Just because something isn’t written down, doesn’t make it okay. Staff have the final say in sits, if you disagree then you should appeal the decision on the forums, not in-game. I requested Special Educator upload the video proof he has to YouTube, and either he or I will post it once it is available. You can sit here and claim you broke no rules but you knew exactly what you were doing. I told you that you knew killing someone times them out of their bet and you replied with "no, not making it back to the table in time times you out of your bet". You knew what would happen. The man was playing as a hitman and without a jump swep or something, they are not going to make it back in time. This is exploiting and loopholing at its finest and I would request your ban be extended by other staff members once they have time to review this. This is not the behavior we need or want on this server. Obviously I am -1 for an unban/lessen the time. and +1 for an extension. 1 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-800-Suicide Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Hello i am the person who called the hit, I called it because there was a person waiting to sit down and i wanted special educator dead (this is all allowed in rp i believe correct me if i am wrong). I told sticks to stand up and called the hit, after that he killed him. Afterwards special educator came back and started yelling about some "you think you are above the rules" to sticks and after a while they were both brought to a sit. I find it weird that i wasn't even brought to the sit, I was just chilling playing poker as sticks gets banned for a hit i called Here is evidence i called the hit: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, 1-800-Suicide said: Hello i am the person who called the hit, I called it because there was a person waiting to sit down and i wanted special educator dead (this is all allowed in rp i believe correct me if i am wrong). I told sticks to stand up and called the hit, after that he killed him. Afterwards special educator came back and started yelling about some "you think you are above the rules" to sticks and after a while they were both brought to a sit. I find it weird that i wasn't even brought to the sit, I was just chilling playing poker as sticks gets banned for a hit i called Here is evidence i called the hit: Yeah that story would check out assuming there wasn't any video to prove you never asked him to get up and you were in the hand playing poker for the same pot. Edited January 18, 2022 by Smelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-800-Suicide Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Smelly said: Yeah that story would check out assuming there wasn't any video to prove you never asked him to get up and you were in the hand playing poker for the same pot. I asked him in our discord call sorry for not clarifying that Also if you do not believe we were in a discord call there would be evidence of sticks telling me to place the hit in question which i can only assume you tried looking for in logs and his video to establish sticks asked for the hit to be placed. Edited January 18, 2022 by 1-800-Suicide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, 1-800-Suicide said: I asked him in our discord call sorry for not clarifying that The same discord call I'm sure you guys decided to call the hit from so he would lose his bet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticks Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Smelly said: sticks response was "I'm above the rules" This is misleading and not the full quote. I said that I am above the rules that do not exist, as is everyone on the server. 6 minutes ago, Smelly said: had a hand in the poker table for 1M and Special was going to win the hand. This is irrelevant as there is no way for any other player to know for sure if a person is going to win the hand. Everyone at the table was raising the pot equally. All that special had was Ace pair, but someone else won the hand with something higher (Trips I believe), so he would not have won the hand regardless, meaning that he did not lose any money, as he was going to lose at the end of the hand regardless of if he was killed or not. If anything I did him a favor by killing him so he would not lose any more money than he already had put in. Overall i believe that you have made assumptions over things that you do not know, as when I came to the sit you were already speaking to me in a demeaning tone, which showed me that you had already made your mind up on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-800-Suicide Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Smelly said: The same discord call I'm sure you guys decided to call the hit from so he would lose his bet. Ok since you are doing alot of assuming here I will also make wild assumptions. Lets assume i did call the hit to kill special educator and win his i believe 1.2 million from the poker hand of him timing out, we would have to in our extreme scheme have 1.2 million to divide between the 2 of us, money that i do not care about at all and i dont think sticks does either considering we had been doing 40 million flips with each other only minutes prior. Assuming that then yes it would be obvious he asked me to call the hit and we gained a hot 600k each. and that is all ASSUMING smerexy does not win the poker hand Lets also not go over the fact that i tried trading special educator giving him an item to repay him for what i thought he lost on poker at the time. I would have a shadowplay video that would show the conversation in discord if i wouldve been brought to the sit but you did not do that and instead banned sticks based off an assumption that it was malicious and what i can only assume was a gut feeling without following up even both the parties of the hit. I am telling you the interaction in discord was essentially "sticks stand up i want to do something" and then i called the hit and he did it and i would have the evidence of that if you wouldve done your duty as a staff member Edited January 18, 2022 by 1-800-Suicide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sticks said: This is misleading and not the full quote. I said that I am above the rules that do not exist, as is everyone on the server. Full quote can be seen above. 7 minutes ago, Sticks said: This is irrelevant as there is no way for any other player to know for sure if a person is going to win the hand. Everyone at the table was raising the pot equally. All that special had was Ace pair, but someone else won the hand with something higher (Trips I believe), so he would not have won the hand regardless, meaning that he did not lose any money, as he was going to lose at the end of the hand regardless of if he was killed or not. If anything I did him a favor by killing him so he would not lose any more money than he already had put in. There isn't any way of knowing correct, though he did tell you in the video "I have aces, you might as well just fold". You guys had no idea what he had and the fact he was raising may have tricked you into believing that was true. We don't know what hand won and if he would have won or not but that does not change the fact you loopholed the rules in order for SOMEONE to win the hand. 9 minutes ago, Sticks said: Overall i believe that you have made assumptions over things that you do not know, as when I came to the sit you were already speaking to me in a demeaning tone, which showed me that you had already made your mind up on the situation. I literally brought you in, asked how your day was, informed you why you were there and you got very hostile telling me no rules were broken, nothing in the rules says you can't do this, etc. Sorry if you took my stern talking as "demeaning" but in no way was I being demeaning. This is pretty shitty behavior coming from someone who was staff at one point and is trying to use the MOTD to their advantage to take money from players. I will not be replying to this any longer unless it regards the appeal at hand or if another staff member has questions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMaze Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, 1-800-Suicide said: asked him in our discord call sorry for not clarifying that Why would there be a sit made and the player allow the ban to go through if he was in the same call with you and sticks? 55 minutes ago, Sticks said: This is irrelevant as there is no way for any other player to know for sure if a person is going to win the hand. Everyone at the table was raising the pot equally. Doesn’t matter you still killed him with no valid rp reason as you didn’t even ask the dude to stand up? I hate using the real life comparison in this game but am I gonna hire a hitman to kill someone because he didn’t move from a spot I wanted to sit in and didn’t make him aware of it?? No. Quote extreme scheme have 1.2 million to divide between the 2 of us, money that i do not care about at all and i dont think sticks does either What does this have to do with anything? Money is money doesn’t matter what your current financial status is and whether you cared about it you still did it and gained 1.2m Quote Lets also not go over the fact that i tried trading special educator giving him an item to repay him As just said if the money wasn’t a problem for neither sticks or you care why wouldn’t you just give him the money that was not fairly taken? Quote would have a shadowplay video that would show the conversation in discord if i wouldve been brought to the sit It’s common knowledge we don’t bring “witnesses” into sits as things can be misconstrued and I don’t see why you could have just sent the clip to sticks. Seems pretty obvious what happened here and from my perspective looks like a scam over 1m and the other rules you’ve broken from smellys earlier post, changing to neutral until more evidence is provided. Edited January 18, 2022 by Maze マインクラフト 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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