WantedNearby Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 In-Game Name WantedNearby Your Steam ID STEAM_0:1:60039432 Why were you banned or warned? I was warned for RDM for killing a hacker inside of my office hacking the panel. Why should you be unwarned/unbanned? They said that it's not a PD raid to hack my panel inside my office and that I can't kill someone for doing that. In that case would it be RDM for a cop to kill someone breaking people out of jail and they have to chase them down a vent and handcuff them The only rule I could see pertaining to this is: The following 2 actions are allowed without adverting PD raid, so long as you do not engage anyone without them engaging you first (or warning them properly): Jail-breaking and Hackers hacking any of the PD panels, including the one in the Mayor's office. Anything involving breaking through a prop or a fading door is not allowed under this rule and will be considering PD raiding without an advert. If you wish to PD raid, you will still be required to call PD raid after exiting the PD entirely. If you kill a CP legally under this rule, leave the PD, and then call PD raid, the officer you killed before you called PD raid will not be considered to be breaking Which implies that cops can engage anyone doing these actions especially when it demotes cops and can demote the mayor and most mayors will kill people inside of their office. Who warned/banned you? GN Isaac How long were you warned or banned for? Warn The video doesn't go far back enough to show that he was hacking it so ill just use this screenshot, but I would say every mayor would just kill someone inside their office hacking the panel that can demote them and other cops, and if you can't kill them I would say you can't kill anyone breaking people out of jail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{GN} Isaac Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) I already discussed this with you in-game. I have nothing more to add here. I believe the warn is justified and you had no reason to kill him. I'll let my fellow staff members decide. You could have made an attempt to arrest him. This is a rp sever. You could have asked him to leave. You could have given him a warning to leave and if he didn't kos him. Pd is aos past second door. Not kos. Edited March 22, 2021 by {GN} Isaac 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WantedNearby Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 There was 2 hackers I cant try to arrest both of them or one of them would kill me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixnut Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I would say if he was hacking the mayor's panel I would consider that a raid and KOS if needed. +1 for warn removal 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{GN} Isaac Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) If you don't have to advert pd raid while jailbreaking and hacking. How is that still considered raiding pd? To properly raid pd you have to advert. As long as you don't destroy, kill someone. There is no reason to advert. "Anything involving breaking through a prop or a fading door is not allowed under this rule and will be considering PD raiding without an advert." Motd states you don't have to advert pd raid when doing these actions. " Jail-breaking and Hackers hacking any of the PD panels, including the one in the Mayor's office". Soo if I'm understanding these rules correctly, if they didn't do any of these actions " destroy, kill someone'. There is no reason to advert. No advert means no pd raid... Motd says hacking is aos "Hacking (As the hacker job): Hacker job is not illegal, but the action of hacking something is." So does that mean we should start making hackers have to advert PD raid to hack inside of pd? If it still counts as " raiding pd". Edited March 22, 2021 by {GN} Isaac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WantedNearby Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 MOTD doesnt state hacking is AOS it says its illegal which can carry different punishments He's demoting police and can even demote me the mayor and if what you're saying is true should all cop players be banned permanently for mass rdm x20 for killing people that are jailbreaking without trying "rp" and handcuff them first. I like that we speak of RP while 2 hackers are inside of my office and if I go for them one of them would be able to just kill me since I engaged them first using handcuff where I have to walk into one of their ranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{GN} Isaac Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, WantedNearby said: MOTD doesn't state hacking is AOS it says its illegal which can carry different punishments Yes, you are correct I worded that wrong. 4 hours ago, WantedNearby said: He's demoting police and can even demote me the mayor and if what you're saying is true should all cop players be banned permanently for mass rdm x20 for killing people that are jailbreaking without trying "RP" and handcuff them first. If someone is jailbreaking and a cop has a chance to arrest them. They should make that effort to Rp it out. You cant compare jailbreaking and hacking the mayor's panel to be the same thing. They are two different scenarios. Most of the time when someone is jailbreaking PD.Its KOS. that's why they shoot and ask questions later. All I'm saying is there are situations where rping as a police officer, Lethal force is valid and lethal force is not. If the situation requires you to use lethal force use it. Edited March 23, 2021 by {GN} Isaac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WantedNearby Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 You say they are two different scenarios and that I should rp it out, when there were two hackers both trying to demote all the cops and even myself the mayor, and if I try to arrest them they would kill me. Different scenarios call for different things yet you think I should just say please leave PD to two people inside my office demoting the entire police force, as opposed to someone letting out people that j walked and instantly being fired upon with the prisoners also being killed. You literally didn't know the hacking thing was included in the example in the MOTD when I tried to tell you and you said it only pertains to jailbreak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zesty Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I believe I've even discussed this with you a few weeks ago, when it comes to the pd you can't KOS For trespassing, you need a law. A hacker hacking the panels is him doing something illegal. Now, illegal can mean kos, but like isaac said, you need to make at least some effort to rp it and not just blast. Killing a hacker who hacked a panel can't be considered a threat, meaning you need to arrest player not gun them down. A hacker isn't doing damage to you, him demoting your job doesn't kill you it just takes your job away. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabroll Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) I wouldn't say hacking is a raid on pd, I would call it trespassing on the mayor's bedroom. Like how we allow the mayor to make office kos to unwanted cops, he has ultimate power in his own lil room. however, because pd is a more public base, there is the requirement of laws stating what will happen. similar with you owing other cp a professional courtesy of giving em a law saying "show baton or die" My earlier assessment is as you painted the situation where a party of hackers are on standby and ready to fuck you up. In this case, because of a rare situation that does not happen often, i think a verbal would have been enough to set a precedence and educate you (wanted) on how to react the next time it happens. So new information has been submitted and it seems like this situation has happened with you before and you were told about what the right course of action is. WIth that being said, your warn is still valid so I do not see any reason it would be removed. -1 Edited March 23, 2021 by Reiko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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