Grape Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 How do we know its right? By looking at the logs, and questioning people. What is the topic we are discussing exactly? What do you think the topic is? I'm discussing Zero making a meme sit, you getting banned for it, Zero coming out as it was a meme sit, then him getting banned for making a meme sit. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/8013-zer0pones-ban-appeal-discussion-report/page/2/#findComment-56427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zer0 Phantomhive Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Staff should treat similiar cases with similar punishments. Also, there are staff guidelines that advise on how to treat some common cases. There are set precedents for these common cases. If in the past, there was a simple warn or short ban, then other staff members should not punish with something different. This concept of precedent decisions are used in many court systems around the world. So @grape, staff members should not vary in punishment but deal out the same punishment for similar cases. (had to repost a second time) Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/8013-zer0pones-ban-appeal-discussion-report/page/2/#findComment-56429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-800-Suicide Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Staff should treat similiar cases with similar punishments. Also, there are staff guidelines that advise on how to treat some common cases. There are set precedents for these common cases. If in the past, there was a simple warn or short ban, then other staff members should not punish with something different. This concept of precedent decisions are used in many court systems around the world. So @grape, staff members should not vary in punishment but deal out the same punishment for similar cases. (had to repost a second time) There is definetly a discussion to be had about consistency in punishment, sit conduct and punishment basis but that's not for this ban appeal. To expand just a little bit on that the senior mod rank from what I would assume would work as a QA type deal to make these things happen more, we'll have to wait until the high sitting guys decide on what role the rank has Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/8013-zer0pones-ban-appeal-discussion-report/page/2/#findComment-56431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 So after reading comments on this I would like to make it clear that this was a very acceptable sit and in no way was I supposed to know it was a meme sit. " I was just RDMed by Reiko" so I ask Reiko and he responds "because he is black". So I ban for intent rdm, not knowing they are friends in a discord. I unbanned Reiko and banned Zer0 for being a dummy. since this has sparked a discussion I will leave my thoughts on the matter. The only meme sits I consider is A.) admin 2 me or B.) hey admin how r u ::)r something along those lines. If we deny a sit such as RDM tttttttttttt, players will respond with RDMed for no reason ttttttttt. It's just their nature. Do I believe you have to be MEGA specific? No. If you include a name and what rule was broken, I accept it. It's easier to get details in the actual sit because both players can weigh in on the story. Not the staff just looking at the report. Those are my thoughts. Also you knew it was a meme sit and you aren't new so I wont be reducing ur ban kiddo Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/8013-zer0pones-ban-appeal-discussion-report/page/2/#findComment-56437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabroll Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Alright, for this specific case I see how we coulda mislead griffin, the sit was acceptable and happened just as he stated. But griffin, can you be a nice bbg and reduce it from 12 hrs, if we want to put it to perspective, rdm one of the more intense rulebreaks is 24 hrs. Is wasting ur time, or other staffs time, (1min) worth 12hrs? Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/8013-zer0pones-ban-appeal-discussion-report/page/2/#findComment-56438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Is it worth that much? Maybe in the eyes of other staff, no. But I feel that is a good amount to learn from. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/8013-zer0pones-ban-appeal-discussion-report/page/2/#findComment-56442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zer0 Phantomhive Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 Is it worth that much? Maybe in the eyes of other staff, no. But I feel that is a good amount to learn from. Man its spring break im just trying to have fun give me a chance dog, I don't mean to bring harm to titsrp its the only rp server I waste all my time on man I would just like to enjoy my weekend playing on my favorite pass time server. If you would give me a chance i'd be thankful. Whatever your choice is, is respectable. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/8013-zer0pones-ban-appeal-discussion-report/page/2/#findComment-56450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoooooABear Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I mean it's just 12 hours. Basically, go to sleep and think about what you did. Then wake up and hop on the server as a new and improved Zer0! Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/8013-zer0pones-ban-appeal-discussion-report/page/2/#findComment-56454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabroll Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 "new and improved zer0" = savage and wack Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/8013-zer0pones-ban-appeal-discussion-report/page/2/#findComment-56455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter the Assaulter Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 A meme sit is "help walter is ddosing my toaster," not "help this specific person RDM'd me" and then proceeding to waste a moderator's time. "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." - our favorite boy Fantasma agrees with Griffin's ruling. So do I. Griffin may unban you if he so chooses. 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/8013-zer0pones-ban-appeal-discussion-report/page/2/#findComment-56457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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