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People who have been perm banned recently

 

Viax

     MassBan

Fetus

     Giving VIP to 300($1500) people with exploited money.

Epsilon

     Giving VIP to 300($1500) people with exploited money.

This Guy

     Seeing people through wall walls.

Random Hackers

     get !caked

 

and yes, that's what I meant, if you boil this situation down essentially that's what he was banned for, it's not an uncommon error.

 

If that isn't a good enough reason to shorten ban you didn't give this man a proper chance, he claims you didn't bring him to a sit and from the looks of it, you didn't attempt to help him fix the issue. Yes he may have used the glitch to his advantage which a ban should be put in place for but by permabanning him for this small thing you are grouping him with the big boy rule breakers when in reality he's not.

 

I did do a sit, he said something along the lines of "I joined this fucked up server one time with staff that just abused for fun and the owner was with them, so they broke my game and it's never been the same since"

 

Think of the precedent that would set for all people who can now magically look through walls. 

 

I guess looking through walls because my game is fucked is totally not my problem, who on the server feels like making a cheat to change wall opaque the walls are and claim the game is bugged. On top of that, " him for this small thing" is not small, you're telling me you're completely FOR people using their "bugs" as an advantage.

 

 I could go on further to start waving flags around telling people what I'm hearing from this.

 

you keep saying "looking through walls" yet oh wait a minute I cant look through walls I can look through one way props I even tried to show him and he didn't let me he said I was a hacker piece of trash and banned me


So am I getting my ban shortened or what because majority say that's what should happen. If I was hacking like you say I was or "walling" yet I can only see through one way textures :)....Cake would have caught me tbh I don't even know how to hack like I explained it was all lua and bug errors that allowed me not to see textures period but I have resolved the problem and fixed it sooo.... if you can stop being stubborn and accusing me of "walling" and actually listen to me thatd be great :)


i've had this problem before, with not having cs source files it allowed u to see through props it's so simple to fix.. u can literally download a copy of cs source files and fix the game texture problem

 

That wasn't the issue, and is not what happened.

 

Yes that is the issue lmao XDDD I can see through one way props not walls buddy you're telling lies I was sitting on a ledge outside their house in the suburbs looking through a window with a one way prop on it not looking through a wall smart one soooo get your facts straight please :).


i've had this problem before, with not having cs source files it allowed u to see through props it's so simple to fix.. u can literally download a copy of cs source files and fix the game texture problem

 

That wasn't the issue, and is not what happened.

 

sorry bb ;2(

It was the issue salty don't be sorry tyrant is saying that I'm "walling" when I could only see through one way props as I was looking through a window with a one way prop against it not a wall therefore tyrant is lying and trying to make me look like some huge hacker which is absolute bs.


First, I'll state some facts.

 

I've had this issue before, sugar fucked up the parcels and they caused a lua error that made you be able to see through walls, however, not sure if that happened to this happened with this guy.

 

Even if it was a glitch you should not have used it to your advantage, this situation would then fall under exploiting.

 

I have never seen anyone get a justified perm-banned for exploiting. Perm-ban is reserved to Abusing admin privlages, crashing server, and DDos/DDos threats.

 

If you write sugar a 5 paragraph essay on why hacking and exploiting are bad I'm sure he will gladly unban.

 

Second, I will state my opinion.

 

If he was banned for "exploiting" I feel his ban should be shortened.

 

If he was banned for "hacking" I feel he should keep his permanent ban, I highly dislike hackers.

Exactly it should be I did not hack nor did I have walls I could just see through one way props tyrant is lying and saying I was walling yet I was looking through a window with a one way prop on it In the suburbs the house in the right corner with the little porch and ledge I was on the ledge telling them what they were doing through a window not a wall ... and thanks  for your input its appreciated


 

Second, I will state my opinion.

 

If he was banned for "exploiting" I feel his ban should be shortened.

 

If he was banned for "hacking" I feel he should keep his permanent ban, I highly dislike hackers.

 

I agree 100% with you, his ban should be shortened;

Unless hes sure it was hacks of course.

Spectate him afterward possibly.

Again I agree as ive said this a million times I did not have walls like tyrant claims I could only see through one way props put up against a window not a solid wall ... hes making it seem worse than it is and my ban should be shortened. thanks for your input


And besides If I was such a piece of shit hacker why would I be trying this hard to get unbanned this was one of my favorite servers and I wish to come back cause theyre are no good servers running anymore and I truly do like everything about this server the community the jobs and the way it runs its a good server. but nevermind that the point I'm trying to make is that if I just wanted to troll and be done with it why am I writing this now? because I don't this is one of my favorite servers and I just want to solve this small altercation or "supposed hacking" according to tyrant and get back on the server and enjoy myself as a player againin the amazing titsrp community.


Tyrant is making me seem like I was walling and hacking yet I was not I just couldn't see textures. soooo if they had a one way prop against a window I could see through it not WALLS like Tyrant is lying about. that's the point I'm trying to make I know I was looking through the prop and telling them everything they did I admit that but it was not WALLING it was a texture bug and I could see through one way props and one way props only. that is all I have to say for now.


People who have been perm banned recently

 

Viax

     MassBan

Fetus

     Giving VIP to 300($1500) people with exploited money.

Epsilon

     Giving VIP to 300($1500) people with exploited money.

This Guy

     Seeing people through wall walls.

Random Hackers

     get !caked

 

and yes, that's what I meant, if you boil this situation down essentially that's what he was banned for, it's not an uncommon error.

 

If that isn't a good enough reason to shorten ban you didn't give this man a proper chance, he claims you didn't bring him to a sit and from the looks of it, you didn't attempt to help him fix the issue. Yes he may have used the glitch to his advantage which a ban should be put in place for but by permabanning him for this small thing you are grouping him with the big boy rule breakers when in reality he's not.

 

Exactly my point I tried showing him that I could see through one ways not walls he just perma banned and put it at that no sit or nothing just perm ban and went on with his day didn't try to help me what so ever. if I was hacking cake would have caught me.


First, I'll state some facts.

 

I've had this issue before, sugar fucked up the parcels and they caused a lua error that made you be able to see through walls, however, not sure if that happened to this happened with this guy.

 

Even if it was a glitch you should not have used it to your advantage, this situation would then fall under exploiting.

 

I have never seen anyone get a justified perm-banned for exploiting. Perm-ban is reserved to Abusing admin privlages, crashing server, and DDos/DDos threats.

 

If you write sugar a 5 paragraph essay on why hacking and exploiting are bad I'm sure he will gladly unban.

 

Second, I will state my opinion.

 

If he was banned for "exploiting" I feel his ban should be shortened.

 

If he was banned for "hacking" I feel he should keep his permanent ban, I highly dislike hackers.

 

Exactly so its a false perma ban and not only is it that but in the ban it states Perma banned reason none given. explain that Tyrant


People who have been perm banned recently

 

Viax

     MassBan

Fetus

     Giving VIP to 300($1500) people with exploited money.

Epsilon

     Giving VIP to 300($1500) people with exploited money.

This Guy

     Seeing people through wall walls.

Random Hackers

     get !caked

 

and yes, that's what I meant, if you boil this situation down essentially that's what he was banned for, it's not an uncommon error.

 

If that isn't a good enough reason to shorten ban you didn't give this man a proper chance, he claims you didn't bring him to a sit and from the looks of it, you didn't attempt to help him fix the issue. Yes he may have used the glitch to his advantage which a ban should be put in place for but by permabanning him for this small thing you are grouping him with the big boy rule breakers when in reality he's not.

 

I did do a sit, he said something along the lines of "I joined this fucked up server one time with staff that just abused for fun and the owner was with them, so they broke my game and it's never been the same since"

 

Think of the precedent that would set for all people who can now magically look through walls. 

 

I guess looking through walls because my game is fucked is totally not my problem, who on the server feels like making a cheat to change wall opaque the walls are and claim the game is bugged. On top of that, " him for this small thing" is not small, you're telling me you're completely FOR people using their "bugs" as an advantage.

 

 I could go on further to start waving flags around telling people what I'm hearing from this.

You lie so much its just sickening you did not give me a sit nor did I say that I had walls as ive said one hundred other times quote " I cant see through walls I can only see through one way props and I have been fixed it" case closed stop lying and unban me and stop making me seem like I'm some big bad hacker cause I'm not I have zero vac bans and wont get any anytime soon


Think of the precedent that would set for all people who can now magically look through walls. 

 

those are tyrants exact words. oh walls you say that's funny because I remember explaining that I can't look through walls I can only see through one way props and in this situation the props were on a window textured and I could see into the house. what you're saying is making it seem like I was outside looking through a brick wall... how would I see printers and bitcoin machines through a solid wall as it would only show the player highlights. CASE CLOSED.

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Let's start with the building 

 

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This is without any props or anything blocking anything, pretty straight forward.

 

Both of the windows without anything

 

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Alright, next to those rooms with blacked out windows

 

 

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Now, one of the biggest reasons that this player was banned and on top of that the call was made was because of him counting the exact number of entities inside the base. He claims "I can see through one way props" well all of the entities were in the back room. Look at the pictures again and tell me how much of that room he can see, through those windows. The entities were across all 4 of the walls, who wants to be able to describe how he could count all of the residing 3-5 player's entities. This was also the day Shadoe was caught using an alt to have an unlimited amount of printers so the walls were stacked, you wanna guess the max number for all of the players under normal circumstances that would be fine. 

 

This situation there was a massive number of prints due to that bug. 

 

what you're saying is making it seem like I was outside looking through a brick wall... how would I see printers and bitcoin machines through a solid wall as it would only show the player highlights. CASE CLOSED.

 

 

Yea, you were looking through a brick wall or a solid wall one way or another.

 

The call was because you told the residents how many entities there were, not because you can count names on a front door.

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It isn't my place to comment, but one of your pictures VISIBLY shows a large view into the back room. From what I can gather, it was never stated if the door was open or not to the back room. If he could see thru the props, there is a certain angle to see almost the entire back room. The very first picture, you can see into the room. And that is from a very bad angle. Turn your head towards the window and walk towards the door. More of the back room would be revealed. If he was just having a glitch, is it even REALLY exploiting? Unless I misread, and correct me if I did, but he never raided them? All he did was state how many entities they had through an area that could be easily seen into with a glitch making one ways invisible/the right angle. I feel like there is something else going on here, maybe a person vendetta or something, but do not hold this against me as I am merely guessing. The evidence, from my perspective, seems to add up to a simple texture glitch. Even if you consider just naming entities exploiting, then his ban would have been served already. 

 

 

Once the server updates so I can join I'll edit my post and add pictures of the angles I speak of.

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His first appeal was from May, if he was just a hacker he wouldn't make another, let alone an appeal at all. I would support an unban or a shorter one.

 

inb4 i get hate for saying that

 

I agree with president

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His first appeal was from May, if he was just a hacker he wouldn't make another, let alone an appeal at all. I would support an unban or a shorter one.

 

inb4 i get hate for saying that

 

I agree with president

 

This is simple policy, you exploit and you get banned. He abused his "condition" (I say it like he has peeling skin, but is more like he could kick through a car door on accident) and at this point it turns into

 

 

 

"TYRANT IS A TYRANT AND SHOULD BE DEMOTED FOR LYING CONSTANTLY"

 

I could sit here and basically filibuster this stating that Grxm is trying to cover his own ass by accusing me all day on the other hand.

 

 

 

 

I feel like there is something else going on here, maybe a person vendetta or something @Billcat

 

You must be new to how I work, if you look through all of the threads involving me (There's a bit), everyone claims I hate them or dislike a certain user. Only one account of me actually hating a person, which is not Grxm

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I can see how he was exploiting, but it would be nice to let him clarify that it was a game issue and not a Third Party program before PERMANENTLY banning him. Jumping the gun on these issues causes more issues. He's fixed the issue (if what he says is true) and just wants to play. I'm sure he learned his lesson.

 

And "filibuster" is defined as "an action such as a prolonged speech that obstructs progress in a legislative assembly while not technically contravening the required procedures". Since we are not really voting in a Congressional or a Parliamentary setting, I believe you may have misused the term "filibuster".

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This is using an ESP:

 

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He probably wasn't using an ESP, as all of the hacks I've used only go as far as weapon ESP, and trust me, I've used a LOT of hacks on other servers while ragehacking.

 

This probably was an ingame issue, but we can't be certain, as cake anticheat does not detect the injection of C++ cheats or ESP hacks. It can detect other hacks like aimbot/bunnyhop but it DOES NOT detect wallhacks.

 

 

Anyway, I say unban him, chances are if he bothered to make a ban appeal, it probably was an ingame issue. Give him a second chance.

 

 

Side Note: I have never and will never use hacks on TitsRP. 

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