JGPAPI BUYASED MRDM BANED

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2 minutes ago, Cr0w said:

post the clip here then. also jgpapi didn't post full logs, he killed a few more after us with sbc.

 

he just got unbanned for mrdming with an sbc canon in fountain and did the same thing again. why is he even shooting an sbc canon in fountain in the 1st place?

if harold damaged him he should've pulled out a gun not rdmed 4 people.

 

isn't crossfire still rdm or that rule doesn't affect your friend?

 

Disclaimer: this person did not report it ingame. only started caring about it after being messaged on discord by kert kobean. Very suspicious

[Kert Kobean]

Just now, LeGerbs said:

Yeah cool okay. You did an investigation after the ban was already made. Guilty until proven innocent checkbox marked.  I have an idea why dont we have the admin team update the rules and staff training sheet regarding mrdm to reflect that if only one person reports someone for MRDM then it should be counted as a single rdm if the others involved didn't care. 

 

We have one side trying to cater to an unwritten rule that for years has been used in very niche cases. And the other side trying to justify their shitty investigation skills and lack of regard for conducting a fair sit most likely due to bias. 

 

How about you guys wisen up and unban this guy. Then write a rule regarding this specific situation.

I guess I'll make one more response then since you want to make remarks on a situation that in no way involves you or anyone else that are not active staff or victims.

 

The sit was conducted by JgPapi. I already stated I agree it was handled poorly, which is why I conducted my own investigation with all parties being questioned instead of just Dexter7.

 

I have rarely if ever interacted with Piklas, and hold no bias towards him. The only reason I cared enough to conduct this investigation in the first place is because of this appeal being used to whine about the current staff team instead of discussing the active ban.

 

And just because a single ticket was made doesn't mean the other parties involved don't care.

 

Crow, Dexter7, and Harold have all already stated their discontent. Piklas should not be given an exemption for BLATANT MRDM because of a niche rule used purely to loophole situations like this.

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6 minutes ago, LeGerbs said:

Yeah cool okay. You did an investigation after the ban was already made. Guilty until proven innocent checkbox marked.  I have an idea why dont we have the admin team update the rules and staff training sheet regarding mrdm to reflect that if only one person reports someone for MRDM then it should be counted as a single rdm if the others involved didn't care. 

 

We have one side trying to cater to an unwritten rule that for years has been used in very niche cases. And the other side trying to justify their shitty investigation skills and lack of regard for conducting a fair sit most likely due to bias. 

 

How about you guys wisen up and unban this guy. Then write a rule regarding this specific situation.

The most blatant part of the bias is that im not even the person who initiated the "massrdm" that only 1 bystander cared about at the time. 
If the rules actually catered to "well its rdm at the end of the day" then harold who threw a grenade into me and the group FIRST would be banned for 7 days as well. 

If the decision is that I stay banned then harold also needs to be banned for 7 days for the exact same reason.

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4 minutes ago, Blender said:

 

 

Crow, Dexter7, and Harold have all already stated their discontent. Piklas should not be given an exemption for BLATANT MRDM because of a niche rule used purely to loophole situations like this.

The person who threw a grenade to mass rdm stated they were very emotionally distraught that they were killed.

You are biased because you think this is some crusade against the staff team and you want to prove the staff aren't doing a dogshit job these days. I have screenshots to prove this as well if someone wants to do another discord interview

[Cr0w]

5 minutes ago, 1-800-Suicide said:

The most blatant part of the bias is that im not even the person who initiated the "massrdm" that only 1 bystander cared about at the time. 
If the rules actually catered to "well its rdm at the end of the day" then harold who threw a grenade into me and the group FIRST would be banned for 7 days as well. 

If the decision is that I stay banned then harold also needs to be banned for 7 days for the exact same reason.

we were talking as a group including harold and having fun, you randomly came up and blew us all up. what bias lmao

Edited April 1, 2025 by Cr0w

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1 minute ago, Cr0w said:

we were talking as a group including harold, you randomly came up and blew us all up. what bias lmao

I need to verify this with a discord interview of all parties involved that were harmed by the grenade

[kez]

55 minutes ago, Decent Human Being said:

We don't take testimonials from players for other players for sits for a multitude of reasons some of which include lying, bias, and forgetting the situation. This is why we typically do not bring players who witnessed a situation to a sit as it muddies the waters.  

 

I reached out to Piklas on discord to get his perspective on the situation and he showed me a clip of Harold throwing a grenade into a crowd of people. This grenade damaged Piklas for 50 health and Piklas then shot back with the SBC cannon he had out at the time killing a couple of people in the process. This case looks a lot less of MRDM on purpose and self defense with maybe a couple accidental RDMs. Personally I do not see a reason for this to be a week ban or even extended.

 

+1 for unban for time served

I'd be willing to change my answer after hearing this, and that only 1 person made a sit. When I banned him the 1st time there were at least 4 sits made by mostly new players, so it was easily MRDM.  

 

1 hour ago, 1-800-Suicide said:

I will wait patiently for my discord interview from the mods to prove what happened.

Why isn't the clip posted here?

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Just now, kez said:

I'd be willing to change my answer after hearing this, and that only 1 person made a sit. When I banned him the 1st time there were at least 4 sits made by mostly new players, so it was easily MRDM.  

 

Why isn't the clip posted here?

I did a discord interview with a mod where i showed the clip. This is valid evidence as kert kobean has demonstrated

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by the way the 2 people who are replying that aren't directly involved are former admin kilobyte and head admin legerbs. Maybe you should take their word about how staffing has been done for the vast majority of the server history

[Kert Kobean]

4 minutes ago, LeGerbs said:

So let me get this straight... he gets banned for MRDM when only one person reported it. He makes an appeal and is proving that nobody cares. You as a staff are trying to make a point with him as the guinea pig. Then in that investigation you interview people that were killed with obvious confirmation bias. 

 

Here's my issue if they gave a fuck which they didn't they would've reported him when it happened. Now all of a sudden a staff member with an obvious goal of keeping said player banned reaches out to them. They suddenly care!

 

What you did is bullshit straight up. You know it is, I know it is and so does everyone else. The fact is JGpapi conducted a bad sit and banned someone with no second thought. Get the admins to change the rules. Don't go out of your way to investigate something that "doesn't involve you"

Do you know an excellent place to give your two bits? Discussion! You are retired staff, unless you have direct evidence to provide regarding anything that took place, please move this somewhere else. Suggestions are a great place to recommend rule changes as I'm sure you *should* be familiar with.

 

And I'll go ahead and add that it's clear none of these players are on friendly terms with Piklas. They were RDMed, and even one of the players involved began gathering evidence showing him prop blocking spawn just to rack up a higher kill count. 

 

I find it ironic that for all the talk about bias towards Piklas, bias *for* Piklas seems to be going completely unaddressed. Would you be adamantly defending anyone else for doing this?