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[Goldfish0]

In-Game Name

Goldfish0

Your Steam ID

STEAM_0:0:125120570

Why were you banned or warned?

Failrp/NLR

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned?

Misunderstanding

Who warned/banned you?

You

How long were you warned or banned for?

warned indefinitely

So here's the story, I saw someone following a player with a pickup box in their grav gun so i decided to join in and mess with the person with the boxes for shits and giggles. I was spamming e but I couldn't tell if it was me or the other person following who actually hit the button, so when the player with the boxes killed me like 30 seconds later without any advert warns I figured it was whatever. I respawn and I see a pickup box on the ground of spawn not being interacted with by anyone so I tunnel visioned and went to scoop it up not really thinking about what had just happened a minute before. I run off with it because I enjoy being a menace then get pulled into a sit and told that you can't interact with pickup boxes in spawn which totally makes sense if you are running through it and someone who just spawned starts trying to eat a pickup box you've got in your hands. But in my case where I tunnel visioned on one of two pickup boxes that were just lying on the ground in spawn, I don't really see how that would apply if you don't have any indication that there is an actual owner around. Didn't think that someone who knew what they were doing, would run through spawn with two pickup boxes at the same time it gets spit out. The person didnt know how to jump swep while running two boxes though so I don't know what I expected. The way it was put to me in the sit by the staff made it seem like you couldn't touch any pickup box in spawn no matter what. For example, someone leaves a pickup box in spawn, you can see their name on the box still and because of that it's owned and taking it would be considered RP and punishable. 

[Tene]

so u were spamming E on the pickup box (and interacted with it), presumably to try and steal the entities (cause why else are u pressing E on someone elses pickup box). You are killed by the player and then respawn and see the same player's pickup box in spawn (that he had left for a few seconds as far as i am aware to go eat the other one he just vomited), and then you go and steal the pickup box upon respawning ''forgetting what happened a minute before'' and you take the box and run with it from spawn and hide it somewhere.

 

11 hours ago, Goldfish0 said:

the player with the boxes killed me like 30 seconds later without any advert warns I figured it was whatever. I respawn and I see a pickup box on the ground of spawn not being interacted with by anyone so I tunnel visioned and went to scoop it up not really thinking about what had just happened a minute before. I run off with it because I enjoy being a menace then get pulled into a sit and told that you can't interact with pickup boxes in spawn which totally makes sense if you are running through it and someone who just spawned starts trying to eat a pickup box you've got in your hands. But in my case where I tunnel visioned on one of two pickup boxes that were just lying on the ground in spawn, I don't really see how that would apply if you don't have any indication that there is an actual owner around.

player kills you > you respawn and see that same player's boxes in spawn > you forgot what happened right before you respawned (?) > you steal the pickup boxes in spawn (rp in spawn + nlr). just seems strange you die for interacting with the box, respawn and wow the boxes are there and i just forgot about me trying to steal them let me just go steal them again.

So you NLRed because you were resuming the same RP scenario / interacting with the same RP scenario (of the player moving their boxes) and you interacted with the pickup box / stole it (what u were attempting to do in ur last life) in Spawn (a no RP zone) upon respawning.

You kept trying to ask me in the sit questions that would allow you to loophole and warnbait people into getting failrp warns - ''so if i just drop a pickup box and leave it in spawn, anyone who touches it is failrping?'' -> this is just not what was happening in this scenario, the user was actively moving the pickup boxes somewhere (which u confirmed as u said u were following them in ur last life while they were moving it), vomits 1 in spawn so he drops 1 while he eats the other, you steal the pickup box that you know he was trying to transport, in spawn. That is FailRP. Stealing in spawn isn't allowed, because you cannot roleplay in spawn and stealing is roleplaying.



You can see the owner of a pickup box on the side of ur screen same way you can a prop, you died to him for messing with his boxes/trying to steal, respawned, saw the same boxes and stole 1.
Not sure what the confusion is here or what the need to appeal is, I think you just want to loophole this rule to bait others into getting failrp warns by you dropping stuff in spawn with the intention of having other people grab it.

Considering you broke 2 rules, i think a warn is more than fair, especially when considering your playtime and punishment history (all were took into account)
-1 for unwarn.

Edited July 23, 2024 by Tene

[Goldfish0]

Just looking to get a second take from the staff regarding this niche rule break, the way you interpreted the rule was very strange and seemed ingenuine. That's all I'm going to say, we've both told our sides, I was as honest as possible. I'm sorry if you can't understand someone playing this game in a nonchalant way but I guess playing to much will do that.

[Heosphoros]

11 hours ago, Tene said:

so u were spamming E on the pickup box (and interacted with it), presumably to try and steal the entities (cause why else are u pressing E on someone elses pickup box). You are killed by the player and then respawn and see the same player's pickup box in spawn (that he had left for a few seconds as far as i am aware to go eat the other one he just vomited), and then you go and steal the pickup box upon respawning ''forgetting what happened a minute before'' and you take the box and run with it from spawn and hide it somewhere.

 

player kills you > you respawn and see that same player's boxes in spawn > you forgot what happened right before you respawned (?) > you steal the pickup boxes in spawn (rp in spawn + nlr). just seems strange you die for interacting with the box, respawn and wow the boxes are there and i just forgot about me trying to steal them let me just go steal them again.

So you NLRed because you were resuming the same RP scenario / interacting with the same RP scenario (of the player moving their boxes) and you interacted with the pickup box / stole it (what u were attempting to do in ur last life) in Spawn (a no RP zone) upon respawning.

You kept trying to ask me in the sit questions that would allow you to loophole and warnbait people into getting failrp warns - ''so if i just drop a pickup box and leave it in spawn, anyone who touches it is failrping?'' -> this is just not what was happening in this scenario, the user was actively moving the pickup boxes somewhere (which u confirmed as u said u were following them in ur last life while they were moving it), vomits 1 in spawn so he drops 1 while he eats the other, you steal the pickup box that you know he was trying to transport, in spawn. That is FailRP. Stealing in spawn isn't allowed, because you cannot roleplay in spawn and stealing is roleplaying.



You can see the owner of a pickup box on the side of ur screen same way you can a prop, you died to him for messing with his boxes/trying to steal, respawned, saw the same boxes and stole 1.
Not sure what the confusion is here or what the need to appeal is, I think you just want to loophole this rule to bait others into getting failrp warns by you dropping stuff in spawn with the intention of having other people grab it.

Considering you broke 2 rules, i think a warn is more than fair, especially when considering your playtime and punishment history (all were took into account)
-1 for unwarn.

Tene already covered everything so there's no need to repeat. As Tene said, you broke 2 rules and only receiving a warning sounds like a deal. -1 for the warning to be removed.

[Chessmond]

As heo said tene covered everything. -1

 

Denied this appeal has been up long enough