Enowapi Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 8 minutes ago, DA BUSHMASTER DAT ENDED IT ALL said: You can't prove my intent, nor does it matter since a check wasn't performed. If that misc rule applied in the way you're implying it does, then that means anyone in any capacity remotely near any kind of gunfight is allowed to just randomly shoot one of the people fighting. That rule is there for if Player A fires at Player B with the intent to hurt or shoot around them, not if Player C is nearby and suddenly feels like freely killing Player A because he shot somewhat near him. in a normal sense no you are right u can't prove intent, but you provided video which clearly shows you scrolling to weapon check and then "pretending" to check him, which clearly looks like you are trying to weapon check him, as isaac stated he should have warned you before outright shooting you. As for your other statement that isnt exactly what happened at all, you shot a shotgun which sprays way further then a normal weapon and could have very easily hit near the other guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA BUSHMASTER DAT ENDED IT ALL Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Enowapi said: As for your other statement that isnt exactly what happened at all, you shot a shotgun which sprays way further then a normal weapon and could have very easily hit near the other guy The rule doesn't apply in the manner that was described at all. Like I said, if it did, I would be able to kill basically anyone if I was anywhere near a gunfight, when that is not and never will be the case. It's far too loose to use as an argument in this case because of how the rule is applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipple Farm Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 hours ago, {GN} Isaac said: Regarding dick Hanson if you look at 0:16 you are shooting in the direction of him and crew I wouldn't necessarily say he was shooting in the direction of Dick Hanson since he was off the screen by the time bushmaster shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{GN} Isaac Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 5 hours ago, DA BUSHMASTER DAT ENDED IT ALL said: You can't prove my intent, nor does it matter since a check wasn't performed. If that misc rule applied in the way you're implying it does, then that means anyone in any capacity remotely near any kind of gunfight is allowed to just randomly shoot one of the people fighting. That rule is there for if Player A fires at Player B with the intent to hurt or shoot around them, not if Player C is nearby and suddenly feels like freely killing Player A because he shot somewhat near him. You can it's in the clip.. Your intention was to weapon check.. But you couldn't lol. also you are wrong. You shoot in the direction of someone like you did here they can Kos you anytime. even if your fighting someone else and I were to shoot in your direction. You can Kos me.. Edited February 1 by {GN} Isaac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironfish1 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) One thing I will say about the weapon checking: for anyone else it just looks like the cop has their keys out. So intent can't be argued, it shouldn't even be mentioned imo. From the dudes perspective a cop was just walking up to him with his keys out and his friend killed the cop, that's blatant IRDM. I'll put my vote in later once I've sat on this some more and reviewed the video again. So please excuse any mistakes in my opinion currently Edited February 1 by Ironfish1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Worst Dad Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 You fined Dick Hanson, and after that, you walked menacingly at Crew with your weapon checker out. We know that weapon checker visually looks keys. Crew failed to warn you in any capacity, and then attempted to kill you. You shot at Crew, defending yourself, which Dick Hanson joined in, without a /y party assist advert, as we can see, and I believe you were well within yell range. I will not sit here and argue what ifs and maybes, or even intent, and will instead just go off what is presented in your video. +1 for a warning for RDM for Dick Hanson and Crew. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{GN} Isaac Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 1/31/2024 at 5:36 PM, {GN} Isaac said: It's clear as day what your intention was.. It's all in the clip. But either way Mr crew should not have shot at you. Best action here would be to warn first then Kos... Regarding dick Hanson if you look at 0:16 you are shooting in the direction of him and crew.. Obviously for crew I understand. But for dick handson you shooting in his direction gives him full right to shoot you. If you're shot at, you're allowed to fire back even if they miss Verbal for crew / explain to him what to do next time Hello plz forget what I said here. I made a mistake and agree with other staff on the punishments :)) Sorry about that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Looks pretty clear cut from the video but I disagree with not being able to argue intent, it all depends on the total context. If a cop is running around and fining people for owning a gun without a license, it is safe to assume their intent as they run to you with their "keys" out. However, with that being said, Mr. Crew was rounding the corner so this whole interaction was obscured from view so he wouldn't know you were weapon checking the player to fine them for owning without a license. Dick Hanson also wasn't in the firing cone of the shotgun and for some reason he was the one who ultimately killed you. I am +1 to warn both of them. I had some sits with Mr. Crew this same day and he is a very new player with a pretty shallow learning curve when it comes to the rules but I had explained a lot to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewarrior2803 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 The others have said everything to say already, neither of them should have shot you, so I am +1 to warn them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{GN} Isaac Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Gonna go ahead and accept.. I will issue them warns when I get online today. Thank you for reporting have a good day Accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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