Tene Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) In-Game Name You Your Steam ID STEAM_0:0:149067056 Why were you banned or warned? Verbal warn / note (not baller on record + this is a stupid rule change) for raiding a base using the item 'Heal Bot'. Why should you be unwarned/unbanned? Firstly I thought this new staff team were trying to stray away from unwritten rules, we raid Bam46 and his group of 6 in a 3v7 using heal bots to push them away to allow for easier raid, their counter was to spam holy nades and deal perma damage to us forcing us to constantly heal (actually ok counter) --- after winning the raid, Bam takes it to admin chat or something and admins on the spot make up a rule that ''Heal bots cant be used in raids, only in base defenses''. Since when has a PVP item been banned from being used in raids, but not in base defenses? And why were me and terry both given permanent notes on our profile about this when we're using the item for its intended purpose. It would make more sense to ban it in base defenses than raids, since if used in defenses the raiders find it very very difficult to enter, whereas in raids the defenders can still kill the raiders and defend their base. Who warned/banned you? Bam46 How long were you warned or banned for? Permanently Can use healbot : In raids In base defenses On the street So is this item just a defense only item? How's that work and why are we making rules IN THE MOMENT (unwritten btw) on when u can and cant use specific PVP tools. The item was used in its intended purpose, which you can see in its item description, if you guys want an actual nerf to healbots make it not go through world, but then allow it to be moved/physgunned during raids (only rule i had heard about healbots) Edited August 7, 2023 by Tene 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20262-heal-bots-cant-raid/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessmond Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 I was also given a note for this pls remove we're being punished for made up rules after using items for their intended purpose. I also went and looked at some old posts and tenes old suggestion for heal bots would balance them out greatly for both defender and raiders. On 8/6/2022 at 6:40 AM, Tene said: Heal Bot's are way too underused as they are an actual good item, but no one uses them in their intended purpose, but instead to minge on the street. I think Heal Bot's should maybe send out waves of slowness/non lethal debuffs (50% movement speed reduction) every beep instead of a fling, or keep the fling but make the knockback weaker. I honestly think a non lethal debuff would still make it so the Heal Bot is good, but not make it so the base or whatever is literally impossible to enter because you are being flung back. Also make the recipe for this slightly cheaper (by a dragon egg or so) since it does require you to be a high level and this will be nerfing it. 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20262-heal-bots-cant-raid/#findComment-138106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tene Posted August 7, 2023 Author Share Posted August 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, Terrry said: I was also given a note for this pls remove we're being punished for made up rules after using items for their intended purpose. I also went and looked at some old posts and tenes old suggestion for heal bots would balance them out greatly for both defender and raiders. preach i forgot i made this suggestion holy moly lets get this change to healbots added and every1s happy and then pretty please remove my note i was just doing what the item description said.. Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20262-heal-bots-cant-raid/#findComment-138107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungWang Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, Terrry said: we're being punished for made up rules after using items for their intended purpose. I think that a heal bot should not be able to push people in the first place, its a heal bot not a push bot. this is true there is no rule and the staff team is definitely going to something about it whether it be making a rule changing and existing one or reworking bots altogether. but for now it has been discussed that they are for defending only. so i will -1 this report 2 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20262-heal-bots-cant-raid/#findComment-138108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabroll Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 What confuses me is terry got a warn in the past from Dreadmore in Jan 2023 for basically using heal bots to defend Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20262-heal-bots-cant-raid/#findComment-138109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAM Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 I understand where terry is coming from but however I don't think the notes should be removed as it lets us know that this already has been discussed and we keep them as a defense only so that if you do decide to do this again we can take further action. I agree that this is a weird area as heal bots aren't discussed very much and don't come up too often and there should be a rule input about using healbots while raiding. I'm sorry terrry and tene that you both got a note for this but I'm going to keep my vote as a -1 for right now 2 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20262-heal-bots-cant-raid/#findComment-138110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAM Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 I will also put this clip to show you how unfair healbots are to use during a raid https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/1nC5chsxCJ_70C/d1337A1RIgau?invite=cr-MSx4VnosMTU3MTcwODYyLA 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20262-heal-bots-cant-raid/#findComment-138111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enowapi Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) This has been a rule that you cannot use it to "troll or raid" only used to defend your own raid in ur own base, this wasnt made up on spot -1 for now as i know its been said in chat numerous times that its for raid defense not offense Edited August 7, 2023 by Enowapi 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20262-heal-bots-cant-raid/#findComment-138112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessmond Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Crabroll said: What confuses me is terry got a warn in the past from Dreadmore in Jan 2023 for basically using heal bots to defend This wasnt what it was used for. I was using it for trolling purposes, aka i was just minging with it by placing it right next to the street. 10 minutes ago, BAM said: I will also put this clip to show you how unfair healbots are to use during a raid https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/1nC5chsxCJ_70C/d1337A1RIgau?invite=cr-MSx4VnosMTU3MTcwODYyLA The same could be argued when raiding someone who is using a healbot. 9 minutes ago, Enowapi said: This has been a rule that you cannot use it to "troll or raid" only used to defend your own raid in ur own base, this wasnt made up on spot -1 for now as i know its been said in chat numerous times that its for raid defense not offense Correct me if im wrong but i thought the whole unwritten rule thing is gone. Also have never seen some one say this. Like ever. Edited August 7, 2023 by Terrry added more 2 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20262-heal-bots-cant-raid/#findComment-138113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddim Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Terrry said: The same could be argued when raiding someone with a healbot. You responded to a clip of raiding with a healbot btw 1 Link to comment https://forums.titsrp.com/topic/20262-heal-bots-cant-raid/#findComment-138114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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