Ban makes little sense.

[76561198431125681]

In-Game Name

Smokestack

Your Steam ID

(STEAM_0:1:235429976)

Why were you banned or warned?

FailRP / Enowapi player toxicity / Multiple Offences

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned?

False reasons / Unreasonable duration

Who warned/banned you?

Enowapi

How long were you warned or banned for?

Two weeks

FailRP does not apply to any of my actions during that day. The crips and bloods factions, being opposing gangs, are meant to wage war with eachother. After getting numerous other players on-board with the crips, i ran for mayor and made all of my fellow crips protect me from danger, while i insituted pro-crip laws.  This is roleplaying the scenario of the crips having a sympathetic mayor in government, to which the bloods may be understandably opposed. During my term as mayor the player filing the report tried (and failed) numerous times to kill me and the other crip players, which were all residing in my office serving the role of my bodyguards. Not mentioning the numerous NLR offences by the player reporting me, this is a) true RP as my faction (crips) was legally at war with the other faction (bloods.) and b) numerous times, though i admit not all, of the times where i killed the player in question, he was prior attempting to assassinate me. This ban was for 24 hours, which was extended to 2 weeks for "enowapi player toxicity". After the staff member in question appeared to mistype a ban command in the chat, i lightheartedly uttered "you banning me or not? trial mod ass." in the voice chat. While i admit this may have been slightly disrespectful to the moderator, it is not majorly offensive, and it is definitely not deserving of a 1 week and 6 days extension. Furthermore, the "multiple offences" part makes no sense either, as i had no previous bans for failrp or player toxicity. I hope that with these arguments i have made my case clear and my ban could be shortened to a more reasonable duration. Cheers.

[JeromeASF]

13 minutes ago, 76561198431125681 said:

After getting numerous other players on-board with the crips, i ran for mayor and made all of my fellow crips protect me from danger, while i insituted pro-crip laws.  This is roleplaying the scenario of the crips having a sympathetic mayor in government, to which the bloods may be understandably opposed.

So This would be considered a Fail mayor law Because you cant have any laws that protect or discriminate against certain players or jobs. Now to do with the player toxicity Ill wait on @Enowapi response before actually giving my vote. Since you gave zero evidence towards your claims. Even with all that these rule breaks would usually not result in a 2 week ban.

[BriskyBri]

Hey man I do have to say regardless if it was a rp scenario for you, in our server we don't allow that, if you were to run for mayor, only officers are able to protect you. Unfortunately enough this should have just been addressed to you, because we have certain rules on what mayor can and cannot do. There shouldn't be any reason why it was 2 weeks for you. I will need more details from the banning staff member.

[Enowapi]

23 minutes ago, BriskyBri said:

Hey man I do have to say regardless if it was a rp scenario for you, in our server we don't allow that, if you were to run for mayor, only officers are able to protect you. Unfortunately enough this should have just been addressed to you, because we have certain rules on what mayor can and cannot do. There shouldn't be any reason why it was 2 weeks for you. I will need more details from the banning staff member.

He was told by me that he cannot do that and he kept on doing it, he was disrespectful and toxic in the sit, he has been banned for toxicity in the past as well as MRDM which id consider what he did mrdm..

[Agro]

3 minutes ago, Enowapi said:

He was told by me that he cannot do that and he kept on doing it, he was disrespectful and toxic in the sit, he has been banned for toxicity in the past as well as MRDM which id consider what he did mrdm..

If I may ask do you have any logs/proof of him mrdming?

[Enowapi]

Smokestack you were reported 3-4 times for mass killing bloods, 1 of those times i tpd you and asked you to stop doing it and gave you a verbal, you continued to do it anyway and then was toxic in the sit, 

ill also say since your last player toxicity ban was now over a year ago you deserve a shortened ban

 

ill +1 This

[Enowapi]

https://gyazo.com/b31d35006f66fbe74dc60e21735948d5

https://gyazo.com/f2314f8a9d37fe69dfe2c1e9ae060935

[Ironfish1]

                 Hello Smokestack, after reviewing all the available evidence including your own testimony of the situation, it is clear that you MRDM'd. I understand the desire to roleplay, however when your roleplay goes against multiple of our rules it deviates from what we would consider roleplay, straight into infractions of the aforementioned rules. I'm going to list a couple of rules you broke just from your own statement;

 

Cop Rules

1. Cops/Mayor can base with users that aren’t committing illegal activities (Criminals)
2. Always try to arrest players instead of gunning them down to promote a better RP experience. It is not 100% necessary but use your best judgement when deciding to kill or arrest a criminal. This is a RP server, more RP = better experiences for everyone

Mayor Rules

1. You cannot assist criminals or commit crimes
2. Laws can not target an individual group, class, job, or person. Make your laws general, and make them affect the entire town. You can restrict areas of the map, but not force people to be there.

 

                  From the fact you broke multiple rules it is clear that you did FailRP. I think your statement of not FailRP'ing is because you might be confusing FailRP with No Intent to Roleplay[NITRP], which is completely different. With all that being said I am going to +1 for a reduction to a 1 week MRDM ban. For the future, if you want to do something similar to this become the crip leader and start a megabase instead of using the pd as mayor.

 

Best Regards,

Ironfish1

Edited June 14, 2023 by Ironfish1
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[Agro]

Hello Smokestack, After looking at all the logs I feel like it should not have been a 2 week ban since you havent gotten in trouble for toxicity in over a year.

 

 

+1 For the ban to be changed to 1 week for MRDM

Edited June 14, 2023 by AgroBot
said 1 week ban instead of 2 week

[Coconut Overflow]

Banning staff member requests your ban reduced to 1 week. After looking through this, I understand the roleplay you were going for, but we can't allow laws and regulations to target a specific group. You can't side with the crips as PD and go against the bloods. There is a few rules I picked out that I feel are relevant to this.

1. You cannot assist criminals or commit crimes.
2. Always try to arrest players instead of gunning them down to promote a better RP experience. It is not 100% necessary but use your best judgement when deciding to kill or arrest a criminal. This is a RP server, more RP = better experiences for everyone
Possibly 3. Laws can not target an individual group, class, job, or person. Make your laws general, and make them affect the entire town. You can restrict areas of the map, but not force people to be there.

For 1, assisting the crips to kill the bloods is assisting criminals. Doing what you did is against this. For 2, shooting down bloods instead of arresting them for illegals is breaking this rule. For 3, if you had laws in place that helped the crips and went against the bloods, that would be breaking this.

All in all, the kills were not correct. You can't work with a criminal faction to take down another.  I am going to lower your ban to a week for MRDM.

ACCEPTED