PAVL Report

[Akumi]

Your In-Game Name:

Don Akumi

Your Steam ID:

STEAM_0:0:193632548

Who are you reporting?:

:)77085IPAVL STEAM_0:0:85825845

Why are you reporting this player?:

They have broken NLR several times and were prop blocking entities and fdaing

Do you have evidence related to this incident?:

Yes

Relevant Info:

https://streamable.com/5qyoiz

https://streamable.com/u9dnm8

(Note these might not be up by the time I put this report out, could be wrong tho just give it a few minutes.)

[Akumi]

1. I actually didnt notice it was cropped until you mention it, my bad. But I didnt say anything bad so.

2. I dont got an excuse for staying in the base, I stayed longer when I saw he was coming back to farm kills

3. If my memory serves me right if theyre outside the base theyre still breaking nlr and you can kill them, (Going back to the outside of your base after you die in a raid to watch the raid. NOT ALLOWED)

4. This isnt allowed? 

5. I said in OOC that there were free printers and procs inside of the base, but because the recording is cropped thats not shown (Still thats on me, apologies).

6. No reason in particular, I guess I just didnt want to stay in sitland for a bit.

 

 

[Akumi]

The weird cropping might be OBS not updating to the resolution I use now (I was playing on a much lower resolution monitor before when I installed OBS) 

[Blue.]

Using proximity chat as a way to see where people are is fine


I am going to say however, that you camping a new players base just to get kills on them because they keep coming back, is not cool. You shouldn't be camping their base for kills, you do the raid, grab the shit, and go. I would have really appreciated if you had at least mentioned he was breaking NLR, if you did say something about it, I did not see. Yea this new player broke NLR a bunch, but you shouldn't have been camping him for kills, and honestly this situation could have been avoided.

I am quite honestly not +1 for a 7 day ban, perhaps a 1-3, but I feel 7 days for this clearly new player you were kill camping, is a bit much.

[Fuel]

So, here's my opinion. You were raiding, as per our rules and the user came back over and over. This is NLR and he probably didn't read the rules/disregarded them as he was at a disadvantage due to being raided by a seasoned player and him being newer. The problem is the impression you are letting off to him that most likely encouraged him to do this anyway. You camp inside his base and farm him for kills despite not having any further raiding actions to pursue. Your video is cropped to hell, did you ever tell him to like stop coming back? You aren't inclined to but I guarantee he would've stopped if you told him not to and it's NLR for him to return after you killing him in the raid. I've raided to destroy ents many times in fact that's all I do but you say nothing from what I have seen, and just kill him as he comes back. He deserves to be punished, sure like blue said, but I don't feel a 7 day ban is suited. Maybe a 1 to 3 day ban. What you did is technically allowed as;

 

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Definition of Raiding: Having the intent to invade another person's home. Whether you're being harmful or not, trespassing someone else's house should be considered a raid.

When starting a raid, be close to the place you're raiding. Sitting away from the house shooting people while they are coming out is not allowed.

and thus your raid did not end until you no longer had the intentions to invade their home (ex: left the area entirely or died for reasons) so in technicality you are in the right, however;

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DO be respectful to everyone

It wasn't very respectful when you raided the dude to farm for kills then reported him while he's clueless despite him coming back and seeing you do nothing, sure he should've read the MOTD but as a user the problem could've been avoided by just TALKING to him. You can raid how you wanna raid man, but in an ethical standpoint this was not cool.

 

So yeah, it's a valid Mass NLR report as I managed to see him say "Dude stop" and "That's my stuff" and you responding with "it's a raid" so it's clear he returned out of spite to save his money making entities. I am +1 for a 3 day ban

Edited December 28, 2020 by Fuel

[Blue.]

Gonna half ACCEPT this, the user was banned for LTAP / Propflying for 3 days, I will include this in the reasoning as well.