Ban Appeal

[Birddog6]

Your Steam Name: Birddog Six

Your in-game name: Birddog Six

Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:2666198

 

 

Why were you warned/banned?: For x1 RDM. 

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned? : I don't feel like it's necessarily fair that I, in strong belief that I was doing the right thing, was banned. I thought that he was actively engaging another person (he was shooting) with a G36, towards the direction of other players/the PD, and I thought he was attempting to bait/kill other players, so I, believing myself to be in the right, executed a swift, righteous, gnarly headshot. 

 

Upon my sit, I was not given a chance to rebuttal and immediately placed in a cage to be banned. I have no reason to break the rules, I understand that I was banned my first time playing the server for a mass failure to communicate (wherein I thought I was being rdm'd, but as it turns out it was a PD raid that I had no idea was going on due to it being started prior to me joining the server, and I was unable to hear the other people because I was listening to music at the time). I was told to read over the MOTD, but I am unable to find what exactly I did wrong. Perhaps I did RDM him, and perhaps I do deserve a warn, but there is nothing in the MOTD that directly pertains to this situation, especially under the COP and MISC sections of the rules. I enjoy this server so far and I think this is just an anomaly of a late-night gaming session.

 

Also, on the topic of reading the MOTD- 

 

DO ask the player who killed you why he killed you in OOC or PMs. Do not just call a sit on him instantly. (The person making the complaint never made an attempt to communicate with me.)

 

All in all, I don't believe that this ban is fair, or warranted.

 

 

 

Who warned/banned you and for how long?: Big Toe

Evidence: I do not have any, and I'm not sure if anyone else has any either.

[Succ The Zucc]

So let me get this straight. You were a cop who saw someone shooting in the general direction of players and you thought it was allowed to kill them to protect the other people? As well as for the point in the MOTD that said ask in OOC first. Yes you’re supposed too and should. Yet if we’re having a slow night and nothing else is up in terms of sits we’ll take it.

[Birddog6]

So, not only that, but he was actively shooting at another player, at least, to me he was. Sure, he could have been shooting around them or whatnot, but from the distance I was at, the angle I was at, and what I was observing, it seemed like a very obvious cut and dry situation of 'that guy is trying to kill people as a civilian class' so I figured he was rdming, minging, or something to that effect. I hit my bind, he didn't stop, bam, shot him dead.

[Succ The Zucc]

So for the warn binds. You need to hit it three times. Second by technicality yes.You did RDM him. Though what happened were you banned for this??

[Birddog6]

Roger, wilco will definitely slap that bitch three times in the future. 

 

See that's my thing, I'm really not sure why I was directly banned for it. The sit was pretty cut and dry, he said he had been spectating the player in question (YT Gaming Prodigy) and then banned me directly from the sit. 

 

If I did wrong, I did wrong, slap me for it. But I don't think a ban is in order for this, honestly. I'm not a malicious player, I'm new, and I haven't even had time to garner any sort of reputation.

[Succ The Zucc]

Strange you were banned imo if you just interpreted the rule wrong then yeah just a verbal to a warn. The ban in my opinion was a little much. I’ll see what Toe says.

[Birddog6]

Thanks, I appreciate it.

[toeslurper24]

Alright boss man, we were having a lot of issues last night. You killed Mr. Gaming YT 2 times, the first you accidentally killed him when he was in undercover cop in PD because you did not know, we let this slide. Later that night (maybe 20 minutes later) I believe you had an encounter with Vexxy that resulted in a warn for RDM. So, when I got the sit that you killed this guy again (whom I was spectating due to the amount of times he was RDMed, I decided a ban was just with the text 'Please read over the MOTD". Think of it more as a break than a punishment, warns are permanent, bans are hardly permanently. This punishment is fair because I think you need more time to review the MOTD in regards to cop rules and RDM rules. Sorry bro, it was just too many mistakes for me to call it a warn after all that and suffer another repeat offense. I will get Vexxy's opinion on this and then we will close this up.

[Vexxy]

we do need to let them communicate unless they are being absolute minges.

 

From what Im getting is you killed someone by mistake..?

 

If thats the case it would still be RDM. Someone not involved was killed and you have to pay the crime fee.

[Birddog6]

While I understand the case that I did shoot him by mistake (believing that I was in the right, acting according to what the CP are supposed to do in-game), I hardly feel that a ban is warranted or justified in this instance. I intimately read the rules when I first joined, before I donated, and even after I was banned, and failed to find a causation or correlation to where I was needing a ban. 

 

we do need to let them communicate unless they are being absolute minges.

 

From what Im getting is you killed someone by mistake..?

 

If thats the case it would still be RDM. Someone not involved was killed and you have to pay the crime fee.

 

I did kill someone by mistake, but I was under the impression that firing at/near players (to my knowledge he was actually shooting at people) was a violation of this law: 

 

 

 

• Doing any illegal activity may result in consequences such as being arrested or fined, or even death if you are threatening somebody's life/resisting arrest
  

 

In the rules, there isn't a stipulation that I have to attempt to make an arrest either, I usually do it for the sake of RP. I felt that due to my distance, my job as the police sniper, and the probability that he was attempting to RDM someone, that it was warranted to shoot him, and the other Crip member that was also shooting at the same person. 

 

And if we're all being honest here, I think this is a classic 'I bit the bait' scenario more than I was intending to maliciously rdm someone.

 

Edit:

 

And furthermore, as pointed out by another user, if I'm supposed to be roleplaying a cop- and someone is actively shooting at/around people, would you take the chance to determine if someone was going to kill someone or not?