North Bear warning without a sit

[North Bear]

The video shows griffin talking in gang chat? I am not in your gang so how does that make me a liar?

Admin chat would show something like me showing admins that you had a base as hobo again, staff being like huh? context please, me giving context, griffin tping, me warning, me pming you, griffin advising me to take a sit before warn, me refusing that advise because you've been verbally warned through mostly ooc, also face to face but cant build on that since I dont have screenshots of this and lastly spotting you afking making the report.

[CoolAIDS]

First of all the only reason I said you took griffins word over norths because it sounds biased when you are reporting for a form of bias. It would not be bias however if griffen showed evidence that you could not base as a ahoboalso I m pretty sure you can see your own warns. So you could check warns for evidence of a warn. Next the screenshot of north insing I'm not taking that advice makes no sense to me.  He was not taking griffens advice of what? Also there is no concrete proof that this was even said unless staff can  provide logs or screenshots. Also griffenn technically made a sit by pulling you to the side.

[North Bear]

Griffin, you seemed to be giving viable information through /gang instead of bringing us to a sit so that would make you biased. Information that mostly should be encrypted(I assume) in the admin chat should not immediately be passed through to a player so that he or she could take more advantage of the situation? I mean, I have nothing to hide but this seems to be the case.

[1-800-Suicide]

Griffin, you seemed to be giving viable information through /gang instead of bringing us to a sit so that would make you biased. Information that mostly should be encrypted(I assume) in the admin chat should not immediately be passed through to a player so that he or she could take more advantage of the situation? I mean, I have nothing to hide but this seems to be the case.

 

Just how exactly am I going to take advantage of someone breaking their own rules. If anything its just annoying for me as a player to have to deal with someone not liking me and not only letting that affect a sit a little bit but to the point where I am refused to even be apart of a trial about me and only made aware of it through someone else who thought I might not saw it. If you have nothing to hide why did you lie about when you pmed me (shown in video #1 at end) and why would you purposfully not bring me to a sit and also ignore me as a player asking why something isn't allowed and asking for a reference.

 

Here is your full context and for those wondering, yes it took as long as it looks between warning and getting pms which only shows that North Bear had no plan at all in informing me why I was warned until Griffin told him in admin chat. Again lying that he sent pms before Griffin asked to bring for a sit that was closed with a warn way before.

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Edit: Im assuming Griffin told you the things he said in gang chat and since staff aren't supposed to bring each other to sits he IS NOT supposed to bring you to a sit (showing again that moderation guidelines were not read) and if he asked you to do what it seems he did over admin chat that should be enough. What is the reason to refuse something that you are supposed to know and then backpeddling by pmding and taking a screenshot to then lie about in a report? What is the reason to not respond when someone asks you about why and where it is stated that something is against the rules? What is the reason to hide the part of me asking about referencing the rule?

 

Imo this is clear cut that North Bear isn't fit to moderate because of these reasons:

1. Doesn't know the moderation guidelines, broke them and suggested that another staff member should break it in the report

2. Did not explain why the reported player was being punished even when asked which rule was broken

3. Lied in his own report about timeline in what I think is an effort to make it seem like he was going to explain why the reported player was warned but in reality it was because another staff member called him out.

4. refused to bring both players to a sit even when as a tmod told by moderator to do so because he didn't want to deal with the reported player. (just don't take the sit if you don't want to deal with it)

[Crabroll]

just from what i have skimmed, summary seems to be piklas breaking a rule that he has already been reminded not to break and north bear warning him for it with no sit because he feels piklas had enough reminders.

 

Dont think its right to punish someone without even alerting them but constantly breaking the same rule shows ignoring the rule completely. /shrug not my waifu.

 

-Reiko

[North Bear]

You're taking a cloth with one tear of your own and you're trying so damn hard to get it out so that the cloth becomes dry again.

[Maverick]

More advantage? What? I was telling him that you REFUSED to give him a sit. The reason I didn't bring you to a sit is A.) Only a dummy dum bring other staff without asking and B.) Not my issue, I'm not the one who warned him and refused to take him to a sit. 

 

Also, the video shows me talking in gang chat with your message to admins and you PMing him after I said that. How did I get the message if you didn't put that in admin chat before you PMed him. Now you are just caught lying.

[North Bear]

I dont see how I am lying, the timeline might be messed up but my screenshot shows me pming piklas and you afterwards using admin chat. I still did the things I am stating. I refused your advise for a reason, not randomly and I think I can refuse someone's advise can I not? I could be stubborn in your pov but not in mine.

 

Also please tell me how I am telling other staff to not use moderation guidelines. I use them every day myself..

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And if it is not your issue why are you so keen on letting piklas know with live feedback. Does every player get this special treatment?

[Maverick]

"My screenshots show me pming you right before griffin told me to make a sit just to give you an indication that I was already making sure why you had recieved a warn but you were already afk on the roof of the house in the forrest. "

 

Do you get where you are lying now?

 

Edit: I was letting Piklas know that you refused to make a sit. If I had any knowledge of something like this in a different situation, I would assuredly tell them because they have a right to at LEAST a short sit

[North Bear]

Look at my screenshot though;o