north bear intentionally nlring in a heist

[1-800-Suicide]

Your Steam Name: 1-800-suicide

Your ingame name: Piklas

Your Steam Profile/SteamID: STEAM_0:0:61391449

Who are you reporting? (Their name and profile): North bear STEAM_0:1:58167898

Reasons why you are reporting: So there was a heist going on where North bear died, I was sitting at the money launderer to see the people get the money and north bear shows up standing ontop of where the money would fall so i ask him that if he is breaking nlr to steal money from a heist he died in, he says no but then just a minute later he does exactly that, itell him again its nlr and then say its just intentional rulebreaking to which he responds "i guess its one of those loophole rules" implying that it would be ok to loophole in the first place. I send a couple sits but it becomes clera that staff are afk as i don't see any tps nor my sits being taken so I ban north bear for 30 minutes so that the heisters actually could complete their raid. This report is for an extension or reban with a longer time since its clearly breaking rules intentionally even after i tell him its breaking rules

Evidence: 

https://prnt.sc/i09f8o

http://prntscr.com/i09m7i

 

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[North Bear]

Ah yes one of those RARE tactics where you take everything out of context. I caled out a loophole rule because you were allowed to sit there and I wasn't according to you. As stated and voiced in the video. I saw them running with the bags and followed up( JUST LIKE YOU !!! ) and saw the launderer dropping the money. I then proceeded to steal in a non agressive way which is allowed.

 

I wanted the sit to happen so that it could be dealt with, instead you chose to ban me directly. I am a neutral guy and I agreed with muffin that he shouldnt take the sit because it would be biased UNLIKE YOU with Wrath IMMEDIATELY BANNING ME FOR 7 DAYS.

 

Cut it out with the premade bullshit. Thanks!

[CoolAIDS]

Also to add onto North's comment breaking NLR doesn't result in a ban it results in a warn, which is clearly not what you did, had you a little more patience and had both of you gotten into contact with me about it saying you both wanted the sit from me, I would have taken it, instead you took matters into your own hands. I realize not having your sit taken can be frustrating but that doesn't mean you can ban someone for NLR. Now Mass RDM is another picture if someone is mass rdming and no sit is being taken for it, is understandable, but banning someone for NLR is not a good thing to do.

[1-800-Suicide]

Ah yes one of those RARE tactics where you take everything out of context. I caled out a loophole rule because you were allowed to sit there and I wasn't according to you. As stated and voiced in the video. I saw them running with the bags and followed up( JUST LIKE YOU !!! ) and saw the launderer dropping the money. I then proceeded to steal in a non agressive way which is allowed.

 

I wanted the sit to happen so that it could be dealt with, instead you chose to ban me directly. I am a neutral guy and I agreed with muffin that he shouldnt take the sit because it would be biased UNLIKE YOU with Wrath IMMEDIATELY BANNING ME FOR 7 DAYS.

 

Cut it out with the premade bullshit. Thanks!

 

• As you can see in the video i was about to run up but then decided to sit down for the reason that you're probably hanging around to do some fishy stuff which ended up not being fishy just straight up rulebreaking. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
  
• Saying you saw them running with money bags is still nlr in the same context as you can't go back and steal a pickup box after dying in a raid just because you saw the guy who raided you. 
  
• I don't know how im taking it out of context when im showing everything that I got on recording.
  
• It wasn't premade and at this point you're just saying its premade because there was a bank manager and i called a heist. please stop the bullshit callouts. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/false-cause
  
• Why are you bringing up things that have nothing to do with this report about you being banned?  
  
• "I am a neutral guy and I agreed with muffin that he shouldnt take the sit because it would be biased UNLIKE YOU" https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman
  

[samma]

One single case of NLR is a warn.

[1-800-Suicide]

One single case of NLR is a warn.

 

This was intentional and I told him about it several times as you can see in the video and I am sure North bear has previous warns for nlr

[Walter the Assaulter]

You died in the raid, yet you are still clearly stealing their loot.

Trying to say you can NLR to steal their things because you aren't "aggressively stealing" which is against the rules in the first place is...not really a loophole, because I can't believe anybody who would be stupid enough to fall for that.

 

 

 

"take everything out of context"

 

Literally caught on video. The "everything" that is being taken out of context is viewable on (in this case) AN OBJECTIVE MEDIA.

 

"you were allowed to sit there and I wasn't according to you. As stated and voiced in the video. I saw them running with the bags and followed up( JUST LIKE YOU !!! )"

 

He sat and watched an action being performed and did not involve himself besides talking to the players, we can observe this on video. You were stealing back items from a base you were defending while the raiders were still raiding. 

 

"I then proceeded to steal in a non agressive way which is allowed."

 

As long as you aren't breaking NLR, yes. For example, if you stole any money Piklas was given that would be okay because he is no longer involved in that situation. Hypothetically, if you went up to people who killed you in a raid and stole entities before the raid was over that would not be allowed.

 

User will be banned for 24 hours for NLR, minus 30 minutes already served for returning to interact with a raid you died in to steal, apparently, millions of dollars of entities. I have previously banned you for mass NLR during a heist. You know what the rules are and that you should follow them. I very clearly explained them to you the last time we met in this situation. Do NOT interact with a raid you died in in any way.

 

Edit: Brought to my attention that the player who killed him was NOT heisting at the time, but instead was getting revenge against a party member being attacked. User will not serve a punishment as they had not died to a heister. To be clear, NOBODY was heisting at the time of his death and his actions would not constitute NLR unless it can be proven he died to someone raiding the bank.