Stephanie Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 I don’t see it as an NLR rule there’s a whole section for NLR rules and that is not one. And I don’t even remember the names from the incident that happened a few days ago that’s why that’s not what this report is about like I said it’s nothing personal just tired of higher ups getting away with breaking rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacnova Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I don’t see it as an NLR rule there’s a whole section for NLR rules and that is not one. And I don’t even remember the names from the incident that happened a few days ago that’s why that’s not what this report is about like I said it’s nothing personal just tired of higher ups getting away with breaking rules Ok. Then what does "If you're heisting the bank, you cannot go back" mean? Like, in what context lmao? You keep assuming it has to do with leaving the bank and coming back, but it doesn't say that AT ALL. It is extremely vague when left alone, because the reader will think, "If you're heisting the bank, you cannot go back. You can't go back after what? Just you're heisting the bank, and can't go back? Like what does that mean?" BUT, if you actually pair it with the rules around it in the motd, it makes complete sense: All of these things talk about NLR. By the way, please stop saying you're tired of higher ups getting away with breaking rules in order to make me look like a high and mighty guy looking down at people and breaking rules at whim: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/genetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephanie Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 You’ve been acting immature about this whole case by going around telling everyone you’ve already won the case and that I should stop trying. Im done arguing with you, I’ll let other people share their opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenkeeper Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 As everyone seems to be in disagreement I'd like to put up a +1 for the demotion of every staff that posts their opinions on this post and like to +1 making me a super admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter the Assaulter Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 JUST TO BE CLEAR, BLACNOVA You are saying that we are 100% allowed to leave a raid, go across the map, then come back and continue that same raid and it will not violate raid cool down since it is considered the same raid? You are saying raid abandonment is not a thing? The raid is NOT over when we make the choice to leave the base/area/part of the map? It will be NLR if they return at any point while we're gone since it's the same raid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacnova Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 JUST TO BE CLEAR, BLACNOVA You are saying that we are 100% allowed to leave a raid, go across the map, then come back and continue that same raid and it will not violate raid cool down since it is considered the same raid? You are saying raid abandonment is not a thing? The raid is NOT over when we make the choice to leave the base/area/part of the map? It will be NLR if they return at any point while we're gone since it's the same raid? I think raid abandonment of an actual raid is different than a bank heist. The reason is that in a bank heist you have the ability to call over, so it's not the same as just leaving a raid where the other people have no idea if you left because the raid ended or because you just left for a second. Please answer this question: if you aren't allowed to leave a bank heist to go halfway across the map and go back, how are you supposed to transport the bags of money to the launderer? You’ve been acting immature about this whole case by going around telling everyone you’ve already won the case and that I should stop trying. Im done arguing with you, I’ll let other people share their opinion Honestly I'm not surprised, because we've reached the point in this argument where I have an actual valid point held up with facts, while you're just repeating your sentence. What you're doing now is using my happiness at realizing I have evidence that supports my side as an excuse to not respond to my arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 What I get from this is we need a updated motd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacnova Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 What I get from this is we need a updated motd The motd's actually fine, the problem is that he took a rule out of its context in the motd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitsRP Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Personally I think if you're leaving the area by a significant marginv (like leaving the property entirely), you have deemed that you're done raiding the area. The whole point of that bank and the bank heister jobs is that there is 3+ people doing the raiding. So once you get in and kill everyone, you can each take a bag and bring it to the launderer. If you're leaving to go to the PD from the bank area, that is a pretty significant run that you have to do. Running that far makes it obvious that you're leaving the area of raid. What I will do in the revamp of the bank manager is add it so it signals to everyone if the player is too far away from the bank so everyone knows whats going on. The current system we have now is a knockup job from a suggestion I liked a while ago. If the PD Bank has it built in that you automatically fail the raid if you're far enough away from it, I think it should be common sense to not run to the PD to get armor and assume you're still in the fight for raiding the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacnova Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Personally I think if you're leaving the area by a significant marginv (like leaving the property entirely), you have deemed that you're done raiding the area. The whole point of that bank and the bank heister jobs is that there is 3+ people doing the raiding. So once you get in and kill everyone, you can each take a bag and bring it to the launderer. If you're leaving to go to the PD from the bank area, that is a pretty significant run that you have to do. Running that far makes it obvious that you're leaving the area of raid. What I will do in the revamp of the bank manager is add it so it signals to everyone if the player is too far away from the bank so everyone knows whats going on. The current system we have now is a knockup job from a suggestion I liked a while ago. If the PD Bank has it built in that you automatically fail the raid if you're far enough away from it, I think it should be common sense to not run to the PD to get armor and assume you're still in the fight for raiding the bank. I left because I didn't realize that I was the last one left in the raid. There were like 10 ppl following me into the bank during my raid so I assumed at least one of them would be there keeping the raid alive, which would give me time to run to the pd and grab armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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