CowsRChunky Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Your ingame name: Doggmeister Your Steam Profile/SteamID: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197982626206 Why were you banned?: NLR/ RRDM/ Build in raid Why should you be unbanned?: The entirety of what I'm accused for is a lie. Just watch the videos below and you'll see. Evidence: The video files are too large to upload to this thread, so I had to upload them to youtube, please see the links attached. I will explain to you the entire ordeal and how completely and utterly fucked up all this is. Video 1: https://youtu.be/0Tiq2yIoEH4 Video 2: https://youtu.be/2DJgBTNT0p4 In video 1, you see me making an advert saying selling printers/processors (I usually sell my printers and processors to get cash, then will return in a different rp scenario to raid, but I digress). At 1:05, Greyguard Piklas asks me to come to cinema to sell him said printers/processor. As I go inside of the base, He tells me to come in again at 3:20. (Pay extremely close attention to this part) At 3:30, "Mike Hunt is Wet" starts firing at me and kills me. I wondered why the heck would he kill me as I literally communicated to them that I was coming in to sell printers and processors. At 3:45, PIKLAS TELLS ME TO COME BACK. The second video is pretty straightforward. I'm returning from spawn to the cinema after being killed. He threatens that i'm dead if i pull a weapon. Once i'm inside, I pull out a shotgun, kill one of them (just so happened to be Mike Hunt is Wet) and then I died to Piklas. Afterwards, (this part is not on video) Piklas yelled in OOC that "Doggmeister = CowsRChunky = Scammer", which implies that he knew who I was all along (you can check steam profiles through the tab menu and figure it out). Normally, this would be an open and close fail raid no problem. But here's where is gets really sick and fucked up. I went afk afterwards to start writing up a thread on titsrp about something completely unrelated. I pull back up GMOD and see that i'm banned (see the picture attachment). What happened while I was away was, these pieces of shit called an admin and said that I broke NLR, Revenge RDM'd and came back to their base to raid again. I was actually furious that Dima banned me because I knew that was not the case. In my rage I had forgotten what happened during the game and argued with Dima over the titsRP shoutbox because I knew something was wrong and I didn't break any rules. He said that the logs had confirmed that I broke NLR and came back. I was utterly confused as to what the heck was going on, so I stopped and looked over my videos again. As I looked at the videos, it all made sense. I had wondered initially why "Mike Hunt is Wet" killed me at first when they knew I was coming into the base (I thought it was a simple miscommunication). But then it all made sense, Mike killed me to make it show up as a death in the logs. Piklas invited me back knowing that I would return and then afterwards called an admin and tried to paint the entire thing as me breaking NLR and returning to revenge RDM. I'm extremely disgusted that these individuals would literally go out of their way to get other players BANNED in order to keep their virtual money safe. I'm so lucky that I had these videos or else they would get away with this absolutely horrendous behavior. This is seriously beyond just DarkRP at this point. These individuals are literally destroying the playerbase on this server for their own benefit and gain. They lied right to the face of one of your fellow admins and used you guys in order to ban me. If there was EVER a time to issue out permabans, this would literally be the time. I would ask that the admins seriously consider permabanning these two to show that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated; it's entirely your call. Also, as i'm sure the cube prop will get brought up to cause misdirection, I spawned it to actually get into the base because their entrance is too high to get into with that character model. If they had a problem with me spawning the cube, why wouldn't they have just said it in the first place? They let me spawn it to help set me up even further. Finally, I'm sure their defense will be along the lines of "Mike didn't know he was coming". If Mike didn't know I was coming, and they knew full well that the kill was an "accident", why would they lie to the admin and say that I broke NLR? There's going to be a slew of ridiculous excuses for their behavior i'm sure. Piklas probably did this because he's upset that my pic got his buddy Aeolus removed as a Tmod. Anyway, thank you guys for taking the time to read and I hope you have a great day! P.S Dima, I apologize for yelling at you, if I was in your position and saw the logs the way they were, I honestly would have issued a ban also, they set me up pretty good. You're a good person and I appreciate the work you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowsRChunky Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 Okay so I watched these videos. You were asked to come back the second time so it's not really "nlr" however your fatal mistake was killing Mike once you were inside. This was the downfall that painted a completely opposite picture to the intent. Killing him does constitute as revenge RDM since the scenario could be resolved without doing so, and he had just killed you moments before. But overall it looks like you were completely set up by these guys, which is a scummy thing to do. Im going to +1 for a shortened ban of like two hours since you did technically revenge RDM him. +1 for ban reduction I see what you're saying but it wasn't an RDM though. I wasn't raiding the first time. The second time it was actually a raid. The word RDM is literally Random Death Match. This wasn't random, this was a rp situation. Also, again, they lied to an admin and got a ban put under false pretenses. How is that allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-800-Suicide Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I did not know about the NLR part and that should not be in there in my opinion even if it's a bit gray area since you said you were selling while intending to raid (meaning you were raiding when you walked into the building) i don't think it should be NLR since I invited you back into the base. However i believe that ythe main poijt you were banned for was raiding as a pet which is not allowed ( I was not apart of the sit since i was afk aswell). I had checked whoo you were before the trade as i do with everyone to check if they are on the scam list and since you were already on the list I took extra precautions so you wouldn't scma again (incidentally you attempted). To adress the cube propr, me personally i don't have an issue with it as long as you remove it after you get into the base.To adress the "Piklas sticking up for his buddy" argument I think this is witchhunting against me since i have greyguard in my name and regularly base with aeolus, as i stated I was not apart of the sit and the NLR addition should be removed. All in all it is sad that you got banned and if the fake NLR was a factor in the ban you should get unbanned, if not just reduced and keep in mind what your job is and isn't allowed to do in the future. EDIT1: should have looked at the picture more closely, obviously doens't say fail raid, my bad +1 for Unban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Stinks Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 For one Piklas never informed me the first time i killed you that you were going to sell your processor, i assumed it was a raid attempt. Then he told me after i killed you, i didnt know until then. Then you came back telling piklas you are a pet, and acted like you were going to sell to me and piklas, we let you in the base and you started to raid and killed me, then piklas killed you. At this point me and piklas were quite confused due to us thinking you were a pet class and pet classes cannot raid. I called admin claiming you were a pet attempting to raid us. Dima checked logs saw i killed you 2 times and claimed it was nlr, and saw you killed me and thought it was revenge rdm. Why would i waste my time getting someone who is trying to play on titsrp banned. To me this looks like your trying to get us in trouble for this incident, if you didnt lie about being a pet this wouldnt of happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindu Nuffin Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I mean, you weren't raiding the first time, but you were raiding the second time. You were invited to come back, and you used it to raid. I do not see this as Revenge Rdm, and i 100% support an Unban. However, not a fan of spawning the prop to get in, but its understandable if they were okay with it initially. +1 For Unban. He "Dindu Nuffin" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Peanut Butter Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Wow. This is actually amazing I'm not sure how to respond to something like this happening. I'm so sorry I was manipulated into punishing you. I guess something did feel a little off about it, but I honestly don't like having to ban anyone. Also I swear when I tried to get your attention your character looked at me before going completely still, I don't know if maybe you just happened to tap the mouse or what but I legit thought you were just trying to ignore me. It's a common tactic. But I'm definitely +1 for immediate full unban, however I'm not currently on the server anymore and won't be again for several hours. please contact another staff member and let them know I want you unbanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-800-Suicide Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Wow. This is actually amazing I'm not sure how to rerespond to something like this happening. I'm so sorry I was manipulated into punishing you. I guess something did feel a little off about it, but I honestly don't like having to ban anyone. Also I swear when I tried to get your attention your character looked at me before going completely still, I don't know if maybe you just happened to tap the mouse or what but I legit thought you were just trying to ignore me. It's a common tactic. But I'm definitely +1 for immediate full unban, however I'm not currently on the server anymore and won't be again for several hours. please contact another staff member aand let them know I want you unbanned. As for Piklas and Mike, I'm also +1 for the maximum ban they can possibly recieve for something llike this. This is atrocious to use staff for your own gain like this. As you were the mandoing the sit you should know i wasn't in it at all, if I were there would not have been an NLR (and thus no revenge RDM) ban. I thought that the main reason he got banned was raiding as a class that cannot raid, i have changed my opinion on my state to full unban for that calificatiion aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowsRChunky Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 Okay so I watched these videos. You were asked to come back the second time so it's not really "nlr" however your fatal mistake was killing Mike once you were inside. This was the downfall that painted a completely opposite picture to the intent. Killing him does constitute as revenge RDM since the scenario could be resolved without doing so, and he had just killed you moments before. But overall it looks like you were completely set up by these guys, which is a scummy thing to do. Im going to +1 for a shortened ban of like two hours since you did technically revenge RDM him. +1 for ban reduction I see what you're saying but it wasn't an RDM though. I wasn't raiding the first time. The second time it was actually a raid. The word RDM is literally Random Death Match. This wasn't random, this was a rp situation. Also, again, they lied to an admin and got a ban put under false pretenses. How is that allowed? But, the rp situation could have continued without killing him. You died, then were invited back to sell your stuff. The moment you started killing people it became a raid and thus you broke nlr and revenge rdmed due to the fact that you had died only moments before to the same person in the same location. You may not have realized that doing so would be nlr and RRDM But the moment you started raiding it was. Which is why a support a ban shortening and not a full unban Again, RDM is "Random Death Match", when someone randomly kills another person. It wasn't random, Mike killed me because he though I was an intruder coming into their base (or I was set up, who knows). The two incidents were two entirely separate roleplay scenarios, one is unrelated to the other. Even your fellow admin is agreeing that it wasn't an RRDM, please reconsider. For one Piklas never informed me the first time i killed you that you were going to sell your processor, i assumed it was a raid attempt. Then he told me after i killed you, i didnt know until then. Then you came back telling piklas you are a pet, and acted like you were going to sell to me and piklas, we let you in the base and you started to raid and killed me, then piklas killed you. At this point me and piklas were quite confused due to us thinking you were a pet class and pet classes cannot raid. I called admin claiming you were a pet attempting to raid us. Dima checked logs saw i killed you 2 times and claimed it was nlr, and saw you killed me and thought it was revenge rdm. Why would i waste my time getting someone who is trying to play on titsrp banned. To me this looks like your trying to get us in trouble for this incident, if you didnt lie about being a pet this wouldnt of happened. Let's clarify something. The class was a CUSTOM CLASS, not a pet. I even confirmed with an admin prior that raiding was that class was allowed. I'm mad that you called an admin and fucking lied to his face about what happened which resulted in my ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoxide Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Okay so I watched these videos. You were asked to come back the second time so it's not really "nlr" however your fatal mistake was killing Mike once you were inside. This was the downfall that painted a completely opposite picture to the intent. Killing him does constitute as revenge RDM since the scenario could be resolved without doing so, and he had just killed you moments before. But overall it looks like you were completely set up by these guys, which is a scummy thing to do. Im going to +1 for a shortened ban of like two hours since you did technically revenge RDM him. +1 for ban reduction I see what you're saying but it wasn't an RDM though. I wasn't raiding the first time. The second time it was actually a raid. The word RDM is literally Random Death Match. This wasn't random, this was a rp situation. Also, again, they lied to an admin and got a ban put under false pretenses. How is that allowed? But, the rp situation could have continued without killing him. You died, then were invited back to sell your stuff. The moment you started killing people it became a raid and thus you broke nlr and revenge rdmed due to the fact that you had died only moments before to the same person in the same location. You may not have realized that doing so would be nlr and RRDM But the moment you started raiding it was. Which is why a support a ban shortening and not a full unban Again, RDM is "Random Death Match", when someone randomly kills another person. It wasn't random, Mike killed me because he though I was an intruder coming into their base (or I was set up, who knows). The two incidents were two entirely separate roleplay scenarios, one is unrelated to the other. Even your fellow admin is agreeing that it wasn't an RRDM, please reconsider. Well you see heres the thing, a lot of times we staff have different opinions on the same situation. We tend to look at things differently. However if the banning staff member wants you completely unbanned then far be it for me to disagree. I will support his decision and remove my previous comment. +1 for unban as per the request of the banning staff member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowsRChunky Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 Okay so I watched these videos. You were asked to come back the second time so it's not really "nlr" however your fatal mistake was killing Mike once you were inside. This was the downfall that painted a completely opposite picture to the intent. Killing him does constitute as revenge RDM since the scenario could be resolved without doing so, and he had just killed you moments before. But overall it looks like you were completely set up by these guys, which is a scummy thing to do. Im going to +1 for a shortened ban of like two hours since you did technically revenge RDM him. +1 for ban reduction I see what you're saying but it wasn't an RDM though. I wasn't raiding the first time. The second time it was actually a raid. The word RDM is literally Random Death Match. This wasn't random, this was a rp situation. Also, again, they lied to an admin and got a ban put under false pretenses. How is that allowed? But, the rp situation could have continued without killing him. You died, then were invited back to sell your stuff. The moment you started killing people it became a raid and thus you broke nlr and revenge rdmed due to the fact that you had died only moments before to the same person in the same location. You may not have realized that doing so would be nlr and RRDM But the moment you started raiding it was. Which is why a support a ban shortening and not a full unban Again, RDM is "Random Death Match", when someone randomly kills another person. It wasn't random, Mike killed me because he though I was an intruder coming into their base (or I was set up, who knows). The two incidents were two entirely separate roleplay scenarios, one is unrelated to the other. Even your fellow admin is agreeing that it wasn't an RRDM, please reconsider. Well you see heres the thing, a lot of times we staff have different opinions on the same situation. We tend to look at things differently. However if the banning staff member wants you completely unbanned then far be it for me to disagree. I will support his decision and remove my previous comment. +1 for unban as per the request of the banning staff member Who can I contact on here to be unbanned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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