Raiders use cancel culture to falsely report and harass bank manager for loosh farming

[Garry A]

In-Game Name

Ray McCoy

Your Steam ID

STEAM_0:1:17474179

Why were you banned or warned?

No reason - Bank robbers wanted more loot, looking to loosh emotions instead.
Shooting an (indestructible, non-damagable) prop in an admin sitdown, which isn't against any rules.
Didn't lie - admitted i was following the rules in good faith. Not lying when a group starts lying is a cancel able offense in some circles.

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned?

I was banned for no reason. If other players were treated as I was, noone would play TitsRP. I was singled out, and deserve immediate recourse, else the reputation of Tits suffer needlessly.

Who warned/banned you?

Fontaine (STEAM_0:0:219673607) banned and did **not** warn me.

How long were you warned or banned for?

I was warned for 0 seconds. I've been banned for 86400.

With no raid announced or taking place, I was preforming my duties inside the bank as the bank manager. With cameras outside and inside my bank, I had determined that it was the correct time to adjust a bank save on the Adv Dup2 tool. Nobody was in the lobby, and nobody was outside in the street or park area immediately infront of the bank. I deleted my base and reestablished the new build in a few seconds, letting the tool properly work so no surfaces where glitched.

In that time, a bank heist leader who had not followed the announcement rules rushed into the back, and RDM'd my guards with a civilian. They deployed explosives, making it look like a raid, knowing they'd have no legitimate way out of a base they clipped into and are actively minging.

I'm going to quote the rules now.

Advert Rules

Adverts that Exist:

• PD Raid
• Bank Heist
  DO NOT advert PD raid if you're inside of the PD. You must do it outside since you will be committing murder to everyone inside
  DO NOT attempt to loophole any rules. Just because something isn’t written down, doesn’t make it okay. Staff have the final say in sits, if you disagree then you must appeal the decision on the forums, not in-game.
  DO NOT call staff constantly. Spamming admin chat will have you kicked/banned
  DO NOT incite other players to break the rules
  Examples of a BAD Player:
  Calling staff that explains only part of the issue
  Reporting players and or staff when they have no evidence/non-conclusive evidence
  Civilian:
  The following 2 actions are allowed without adverting PD(readas:Bank) raid, so long as you do not engage anyone without them engaging you first (or warning them properly): Jail-breaking and Hackers hacking any of the PD panels, including the one in the Mayor's office. Anything involving breaking through a prop or a fading door is not allowed under this rule and will be considering PD raiding without an advert. If you wish to PD raid, you will still be required to call PD raid after exiting the PD entirely. If you kill a CP legally under this rule, leave the PD, and then call PD raid, the officer you killed before you called PD raid will not be considered to be breaking NLR if they return to the PD to stop your PD raid, as they died before you called a PD raid.

Whilst in a sitdown (reported falsely) I was caged for no reason, asked if I was allowed to go, given silence, and than G-mod crashed (my friend tried to call me on discord). I was than banned.

I have the steamID's of the admin and the 2 false accusers/failRPers.

STEAM_0:1:110353231
STEAM_0:0:120934516

My guilt was presumed. The failERers where toxic, and the admin was negligent in addressing their behavior, and did pardon it.

Everyone in this server is innocent until proven guilty. 
All video evidence must start ~30 secs before the event in question, and end ~30 after.

One of the Base Mingers, in the middle of Minging, began filling out a report against me, unable to locate me in my base, Unable to otherwise disrupt my play, they must have fallen to false reporting in attempts to escalate their harassment and gang-raping. The record shows, as they had a container of their untarnished goodies with them during the admin sit-down.

Simply put, they were abusing the features of the server in order to obtain an unfair advantage over other players. They failed to follow the rules of raiding, of classes, and of proper usage of the report system/admin assistance, to only name a few. This was in direct violation of the protections the rules of the server are designed to afford to all players.

The rules of the server come in writing. Federal law stipulates that anything in writing is enforcable in court (court is when people collect to make decisions, this forum is a court), pursuant to the statute of fraud. These rules are designed to protect me, the user, the clearly intended and expressly designated beneficiary. 

All users have had their information recorded for future activities with The Bank of Dark.

We, the employees at The Bank of Dark follow the rules and terms of every server we do business in. Our employees, in doing so in good-faith, adopt a perfect defense to the element of willfulness, concerning infractions. Since the burden of the prosecution is to prove that we did willing and knowingly take or avoid taking an action as is prescribed by the rules and terms with a moral certainty, they must be precluded, else adherence to the constitutionary rules be rendered pointless by virtue of judging in favor the rule-breakers in all manners.

Once again, since the prosecutor (STEAM_0:1:110353231 + STEAM_0:0:120934516) does not have a cause of action for which administrative correct may be granted, your Honor, if it should so please the court, (the prosecution's) council specifically precluded from preforming their major task.

Therefore, your Honor, may it please the court at this time, we (The Bank of Dark and Co.) would motion most graciously for a dismissal with prejudice for failure to state a cause of action for which relief may be granted by this honorable court.

And I'd kinda like to collect my losses and injury for having to endure and defend against this patently frivolous and spurious complaint (and subsequent false banning), should it so please the court.

Losses for the day tally around 285,000 DarkRP Dollars. Losses on expected returns sit around 2,500,000 ~ 3,000,000 for the future of an untarnished Bank at this time during this patch on this date, conservatively. We would be happy with any remedy, solong as all actions are taken in appropriate channels.

Edited Sunday at 04:45 AM by Garry A

[tali]

I've forwarded this to fontaine so he can post logs for the ban. But if you have any evidence to your claims please post it. Otherwise it's just all speculation 

[Garry A]

It's factually self-evident and consistent with everything present at the moderator sit-down.

If you are raiding someone, why are you reporting them, and also swallowing a box full of stolen supplies? Why is it in the moderator sit-in, and why was my employee detained even further in the sit-down for pointing it out. Why is one of them a civilian? If the mod is sitting down and sees the clips, they should see a clear Advertisement and a Log should be on the server. Is reporting allowed mid-raid? In addition to building base rules for compliance with raids, is the moderation team suggesting 24/7 surveillance at the Bank?

If we think taking hours of raw footage is required to address people posting what should be minute-long clips of their clean raids, than let's have a conversation about it and update the rules to reflect what we expect of all parties. We are failing to see other parties meet the basic requirements set for them, and we at The Bank of Dark adhere to strict operational code.

If no such clips exist for our viewing from other parties, it's suggesting everything is speculatory slander. We are the entities who have not been given equal treatment, so we seek restoration and correction.

These postings are evidence of that.

[Vex]

This factually doesn't tell us anything without any logs and/or clips of the sit, just he said - she said. We only accept Screenshotted logs and clips which must be 30 seconds before the interaction and end 30 seconds after. If you have a clip regarding this I would post it, until then we'll wait for Fontaine to post the evidence he has of this.

[Garry A]

else adherence to the constitutionary rules be rendered pointless by virtue of judging in favor the rule-breakers in all manners.

We had also been left factually unsatisfied, yet all other parties seemed pleased enough to distribute punishment to us, which is, itself, recorded as evidence here. I posit that only we, the party of The Bank of Dark, have brought forward evidence regarding this matter at this time.

If it's all he-said-she-said, and the rules say I'm innocent until proven guilty, I shouldn't be punished. Unless we punish the innocent, presumably.

From the Moderator / Admin Guidelines:
 The Do Not's 
DO NOT ban/kick people for RP reasons. Ex) Billy Bob raided Sugar's house and Sugar got angry and banned him for 2 hours for some bullshit reason
 Chat/Console Commands 
!warn - Used to warn players when they do something wrong
https://titsrp.com/bans/ 

Ray McCoy (STEAM_0:1:17474179)

Fontaine (STEAM_0:0:219673607)

FailRP|Ptox

2 Days

9-28-26

[tali]

Yeah so he asked for evidence proving that you are innocent. Not what you got banned for because everyone can see that. Once more you have not posted any evidence to prove your claim of innocence.

[Blue.]

16 hours ago, Garry A said:

I was warned for 0 seconds. I've been banned for 86400.

With no raid announced or taking place, I was preforming my duties inside the bank as the bank manager. With cameras outside and inside my bank, I had determined that it was the correct time to adjust a bank save on the Adv Dup2 tool. Nobody was in the lobby, and nobody was outside in the street or park area immediately infront of the bank. I deleted my base and reestablished the new build in a few seconds, letting the tool properly work so no surfaces where glitched.

In that time, a bank heist leader who had not followed the announcement rules rushed into the back, and RDM'd my guards with a civilian. They deployed explosives, making it look like a raid, knowing they'd have no legitimate way out of a base they clipped into and are actively minging.

While we wait for a clip to be posted, the claims of the banning staff were that you were freaking out having a tantrum, and trying to destroy melancholias pickupbox (which IS destroyable btw, it is NOT invincible)
 

 

16 hours ago, Garry A said:

Whilst in a sitdown (reported falsely) I was caged for no reason, asked if I was allowed to go, given silence, and than G-mod crashed (my friend tried to call me on discord). I was than banned.

Are you lying here? Claims made by the banning staff is that you never crashed, and that you were banned. The ban might have crashed your game but failing to prove this to be the case means nothing will happen.
 

 

16 hours ago, Garry A said:

My guilt was presumed. The failERers where toxic, and the admin was negligent in addressing their behavior, and did pardon it.

How so? Any proof of these claims? You can't just claim things and not back them up.

 

16 hours ago, Garry A said:

The rules of the server come in writing. Federal law stipulates that anything in writing is enforcable in court (court is when people collect to make decisions, this forum is a court), pursuant to the statute of fraud. These rules are designed to protect me, the user, the clearly intended and expressly designated beneficiary. 

This makes you look dumb as hell ngl, that is not how this works, you do not have protected rights, but if the situation is proven to be mishandled corrections will be made. This isn't court, you are not protected by federal law. 
 

 

16 hours ago, Garry A said:

And I'd kinda like to collect my losses and injury for having to endure and defend against this patently frivolous and spurious complaint (and subsequent false banning), should it so please the court.

you get nothing lmao
 

 

14 hours ago, Garry A said:

If you are raiding someone, why are you reporting them,

respawning your dupe is not allowed during any RP scenarios, even if YOU didnt see an advert. That is grounds for a report.

 

14 hours ago, Garry A said:

If we think taking hours of raw footage is required to address people posting what should be minute-long clips of their clean raids, than let's have a conversation about it and update the rules to reflect what we expect of all parties. We are failing to see other parties meet the basic requirements set for them, and we at The Bank of Dark adhere to strict operational code.

no
 

 

14 hours ago, Garry A said:

We are the entities who have not been given equal treatment, so we seek restoration and correction.

You're definitely an entity alright, thats for sure.

 

6 hours ago, Garry A said:

If it's all he-said-she-said, and the rules say I'm innocent until proven guilty, I shouldn't be punished. Unless we punish the innocent, presumably.

All staff appeals require staff to provide some level of evidence to support their decision, from that point on it is the players responsibility to prove otherwise, or it gets denied. Though if you really want to be taken seriously and not look like a massive joke (like you are currently) then I would suggest you take this shit less seriously and approach the situation more casually. Writing this slop like you have just makes you look like a massive troll, or just plain dumb. 



This has to be a shit post right? no way you are this serious. Where do you think you are??

Edited Sunday at 08:20 PM by Blue.

[Melancholia]

Heyo sorry for not appearing sooner but no one reached out until just now.

This is from raider #2 Kuromi's POV
Untitled - Clipped Garry's Mod with Medal.tv (0:50 mark you can see the dupe being taken down and repasted)

I sadly don't have any slogs on me and Fontaine (banning staff member) can post them later once he has time.

The ptox part i don't really understand myself as, yes you were rude and didn't wanna listen to Fontaine at all but you didn't really say anything to warrant it.

Sadly i don't have clips of you shooting the pickup box in sitland however you also admitted it yourself soooooooo

-Mel

[Blue.]

2 minutes ago, Melancholia said:

Heyo sorry for not appearing sooner but no one reached out until just now.

This is from raider #2 Kuromi's POV
Untitled - Clipped Garry's Mod with Medal.tv (0:50 mark you can see the dupe being taken down and repasted)

I sadly don't have any slogs on me and Fontaine (banning staff member) can post them later once he has time.

The ptox part i don't really understand myself as, yes you were rude and didn't wanna listen to Fontaine at all but you didn't really say anything to warrant it.

Sadly i don't have clips of you shooting the pickup box in sitland however you also admitted it yourself soooooooo

-Mel

 (gunshots, explosions and footsteps going on constantly) 

"I had no reason to think a raid was going on so i respawned my dupe" 

Lmao even IF you guys had failed to advert raid its still an infraction. 

Since you were there what would have been the reason for fontain banning? If it was simply just a bit of yelling and a dupe respawn that would at most constitute a warn. It's gonna be a while before fontaine responds himself so I'd just like to get the story while we wait, then it can be verified fully later.
 

[Melancholia]

Once Fontaine is available he can post slogs

But Kuromi called for BANK RAID and after i called for assist (this can be proven with slogs later)

Once i had breached into bank vault, Ray ran out of vault and locked it from the outside even though i had already ''breached'' that part effectivly doing what Afflicto did

I called for a sit regarding failrp while lockpicking the vault door again and was later brought into sit

in the sit you're mostly just arguing and yelling without listening to Fontaine trying to explain that you can't repaste dupe as you kept accusing me/Kuromi of not calling an actual raid

When Fontaine unjailed you (dunno why u were jailed to begin with ngl) you went straight for the pickup box that i had from the raid as we were brought during it and started shooting - can be confirmed here

16 hours ago, Garry A said:

Shooting an (indestructible, non-damagable) prop in an admin sitdown, which isn't against any rules.

You can also see in the clip that your accusation of us being bank heist leader + civillian isn't true as we're both running CCs
(apperently we clipped into the dupe? #noclip raiders strike again)

Now while i can't see your priors and talk for fontaine why it resulted in 3d + ptox

All i can say is what you did break was failrp, beyond that not much else. However do try to listen to the staff member when they are trying to explain rules or what went wrong rather then berate them and talk like you're innocent in a court house (holy larp)

Honestly yes if you had no priors regarind failrp a warn would have sufficed, but i'll let the actual staff members handle that.

-Mel