Vote Kick/Ban Restriction Appeal

[Tyz37]

5 minutes ago, Blue. said:

make a bunch of sits < wait very patiently < pm staff < maybe even try discord < THEN you can vote without being punished. From what im seeing if you're making a couple sits and jumping straight to the votes.

I will screenshot every single ticket I make and then compile them for you to show how many are not taken then. I get 1/20 taken when getting rdm'd constantly or dealing with people minging. I constantly make tickets, wait, ooc try to see if staff are doing anything, and have no responses.

[Tyz37]

10 minutes ago, Harpuricle said:

Yes.

Yet, you DID NOT make a ticket.

That IS WHY you are vote restricted.

2 tickets were made. Do not lie and say none were made. It was about 7 minutes in total of nothing being done and then 5 minutes after the vote kick/ban that I was vote restricted.

Edited July 10, 2025 by Tyz37

[Grok]

15 minutes ago, Tyz37 said:

2 tickets were made. Do not lie and say none were made. It was about 7 minutes in total of nothing being done and then 5 minutes after the vote kick/ban that I was vote restricted.

This will be my last reply.

 

Staff tickets expire, and not every staff member will have their ticket timer to longer than 2 minutes. Before you say that I was on the server when you still made those tickets, I was doing other stuff so I did not see any ticket before and after I did said stuff, I came back to you initiating a votekick without a ticket being made. You should've made a new ticket and waited a short bit before making a vote considering how long the ticket wasn't answered. Maybe staff didn't see it when you originally made it.

[Tyz37]

49 minutes ago, Harpuricle said:

This will be my last reply.

 

Staff tickets expire, and not every staff member will have their ticket timer to longer than 2 minutes. Before you say that I was on the server when you still made those tickets, I was doing other stuff so I did not see any ticket before and after I did said stuff, I came back to you initiating a votekick without a ticket being made. You should've made a new ticket and waited a short bit before making a vote considering how long the ticket wasn't answered. Maybe staff didn't see it when you originally made it.

If you have not seen a ticket being made and did not check logs to see the tickets and to ask what the tickets were about/am I vote kicking because  the tickets were not taken, then you did not do your job as staff. You just went straight to punish as much as you can. You did not look into it, you did not question why there were vote kicks or bans, you did not communicate in any way other than randomly bringing and saying "you are getting vote restricted" then vote restricting and returning. You did not do your job as staff and used your powers without investigating anything. You blatantly did not follow the guideline "DO use common sense."

Edited July 10, 2025 by Tyz37

[Michael Bay]

Just because a staff doesn't take your ticket immedietly doesn't mean you should automatically call a votekick/ban. Be patient, Make another ticket, sometimes tickets expire bc staff are busy doing something else. Don't be so quick to calling votes. If you want, make screenshots of ur tickets if you think its gonna help, but just by having a good attitude and friendly manner makes staff feel more comfortable taking ur sits.

 

-1 for removal

[Tyz37]

4 hours ago, Michael Bay said:

Just because a staff doesn't take your ticket immedietly doesn't mean you should automatically call a votekick/ban. Be patient, Make another ticket, sometimes tickets expire bc staff are busy doing something else. Don't be so quick to calling votes. If you want, make screenshots of ur tickets if you think its gonna help, but just by having a good attitude and friendly manner makes staff feel more comfortable taking ur sits.

 

-1 for removal

7 minutes total is not "immediately". Additionally, the lack of communication makes it seem like they are not doing anything at all so what am I supposed to do in your opinion? Make all of the reports into forums reports? I will do that but then you all will complain about how many I will make. The entire thing it seems to be with you all is "do not vote kick or vote ban when we don't do anything about something for a decent amount of time and refuse to communicate. also don't make a ton of forums reports because we shit talk you for it and complain that you make too many behind your back." Not a very sensible set of logic. It is basically a "do nothing or we try to make it unfun for you to do anything because we don't like to do our jobs we signed up for" kind of thing.

[Guest]

54 minutes ago, Tyz37 said:

7 minutes total is not "immediately". Additionally, the lack of communication makes it seem like they are not doing anything at all so what am I supposed to do in your opinion? Make all of the reports into forums reports? I will do that but then you all will complain about how many I will make. The entire thing it seems to be with you all is "do not vote kick or vote ban when we don't do anything about something for a decent amount of time and refuse to communicate. also don't make a ton of forums reports because we shit talk you for it and complain that you make too many behind your back." Not a very sensible set of logic. It is basically a "do nothing or we try to make it unfun for you to do anything because we don't like to do our jobs we signed up for" kind of thing.

Hello! Prior staff here.

My familiarity with staff is that: Yes! It's a volunteer position, and it's frusturating when staff don't take your tickets, so you make a votekick/ban just for it to get canceled, and nothing happens to the rulebreaker.
It's quite frusturating! My go? I just yell at a mod in pms [Jokingly] And they'll often say "Make another ticket" and then handle it.

I understand that's its frusturating that when they end your vote you don't get a response, i did this myself when I was staff, my first day as tmod actually! 
I had 13 sits pinned and was cancelling votebans trying to handle 4 seperate Mass RDMers and was getting bugged like Crazy in OOC! It's annoying on the staff end, and the player end as well.
My BEST slice of advice I can give you? Treat staff not as staff but as a player instead, after all, they're here to play the game too, they just have the responsibility of taking care of the broken rules and whatnot, and sometimes, maybe that day they dont got the energy for it anymore after taking some, Which is fine, I did that myself and let other staff [Mostly Quest4Coochie, DannyMagik, and Johnny Briggs were active] take the sits for me, and help whenever asked.

My general guideline is:
Make a sit, wait a minute or two
Make a second sit, wait a minute or two.
Initiate a voteban/votekick
Gets cancelled? IMMEDIATELY Make another ticket and PM a staff member asking to take it.
Doesn't get cancelled? Well, he's gone!

If the first staff you PM doesn't answer, try a second if there's more than one on, or them all.

 

Hope this helps everyone!

[Sleepy Tomoko]

vote system gets easily abused so restrictions are placed if deemed not reasonable for kick/ban 

there is always a route to take if 1 fails

 

neutral for now

 

Make a sit and wait till the next available staff 

If no staff is available to take your sit , ask if they can let vote kick/bans through ( if staff are online )

If the vote fails and If staff can't get to your sit, gather logs/screenshots and clips and take to forums 

It's always recommend to keep subject related and a reasonable on forums

 

 

[1304]

I have noticed more and more vote bans or vote kicks when a staff member does not take the sit the first time around as other staff have said when the sit does not get took the first time that does not mean you vote ban or vote kick them Sometimes staff members want to log on and enjoy the server and just play

 

i am  Neutral in this for now 

[Henchy]

As already stated, there is other options you can do if your sit is not taken, my best recommendation is just PMing a staff member even just reaching out on discord (if you want) can be very helpful as many times staff can be tabbed out. And remember always that STAFF are people too yelling at them or annoying them does not do you justice as a player, we are all on the server to have fun at the end of the day.

 

For everything stated and the screenshots posted by Harpy I'm going to be -1.