goodnight Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) Your In-Game Name: Hex Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:67970096 Who are you reporting?: Leonard Finkus STEAM_0:1:172486116 Why are you reporting this player?: Had to report it here because I patiently waited 40 minutes (according to the timestamp of my death to when Leonard logged off of the server entirely) and nothing happened, despite there being anywhere from 4-9 staff on during the time of my report. Leonard had RDMed me while I was in the process of trying to stalk a target that was in the building directly to the left outside of, that John DarkRP owned at the time. I was trying to go through the back way, placing a timebomb so I could break in (I had died once previously because I stupidly didn't know he owned the building, but as the rules state, I am allowed to return to the area for my stalk target) and since my target had not yet rerolled, I went back and tried to be a little bit more slick about it. However, once I was ready to toss the bomb, Leonard showed up and gunned me down. I checked the door after the fact and the logs to make sure he didn't own it and made my report, but nobody took it and then he was completely offline. After he killed me, he jumped into the timebomb and died, which I have in the evidence logs I provided below. It also shows him being mildly toxic in chat after I asked if he was even on the doors, which he was not, so he was NOT allowed to protect that base. Do you have evidence related to this incident?: Yes Relevant Info: https://imgur.com/a/Q5OHoFX Edited August 12 by goodnight Metric fuck ton of spaced underneath what I posted idk why that happened 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH (2) Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) I am Leonard. I owned the base you are referring to. The rules state. "To own a base you must claim the most doors, not just the front door." I happened to own the most doors in the base. To be quite frank you NLRD on this base. The rules state "If your raid is interrupted by a natural event (such as a train, being teleported by the pickle statue or a sit, any raid cooldown timers are void. You may restart your raid immediately." You were not interrupted by a natural event as you were killed by John Dark Rp. Raiding Cooldown: There is no cooldown but you cannot raid the same person again within 20 minutes. You raided the same base 2 times within 20 minutes as seen in Wilhelm Panderinos report on you. Edited August 12 by ASH (2) Yeah 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tene Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) maybe im missing something here but ur only evidence is the logs so im not entirely sure how anyone is supposed to do anything related to this situation. showing someone killed u doesnt show that they werent on doors or whatever. if this guy is loopholing the rules by not being on front doors but owning the most doors in base except front doors so technically hes allowed to counter thats just not allowed (only thing im seeing from this situation that may not be allowed only judging off of the guys response quoting the most doors owned rule instead of front doors rule). The imgur thing only shows logs, again unless im missing something there is no evidence that he didnt own a front door and his kill on you wasnt valid. edit: after reading the other related forums post on this issue, going to 19 seconds of this video shows he is not on the front door and is in fact loopholing to defend the base by owning the back doors but not the front one. I think he is just trying to loophole by owning the back 2 doors, but not the front one, so he technically owns the base and can defend it, this however isn't how our rules are written though, so it is RDM from Leonard Finkus as he did not own the front door of the base (i would also just add loopholing to the warn) a sit should have been called by leonard to get the front door unowned instead of abusing this (hes in party with the guy who owns front doors), the base is a failbase as the owner of the front door does not own rest of the base and owner of rest of base does not own front door so the ''owner'' is not the one on front doors (quirky loophole imbound of ''so if u own a base u cant defend it'') +1 for warn for RDM You must be on the front door(s) of the base and inside of the base before a raid starts to defend it, otherwise you must counter. You may counter a raid as a cop or if you are on the front door(s) and outside the base at the start of a raid. Edited August 12 by Tene 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F___ Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Tene as per usual as hit this one pretty well on the head, I have to agree here that its pretty clear here he's trying to loophole the defending rule here by not owning the front doors but majority of doors to own the base. As posted above in our rules it states you must be on the front door to defend the base, and because Leonard was not on the the door it can't be considered defending his base. +1 for a warning for RDM, Loopholing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TapWater69 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Tene and F___ Pretty much said what needs to be said Most definitely loopholing the rules +1 for RDM warn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGerbs Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Ash I highly suggest you catch up on our rules as a lot of things have changed. I can't prove you attempted to loophole as this is a very recent change. I am still however in favor of a warn for RDM. +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riv Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Accepted! Leonard Finkus has been warned for RDM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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