The case for Tick's Lobby Dupe (and the future of PD dupes)

[KramARTacus.]

Seventeen props; three just for decoration.

 

On October 3rd, 2022 I became mayor with one mission. A mission to proudly use a new dupe that was simple in nature but game changing for how to look at the police station. I set my law boards up for the public eye making sure one was right next to the PD front door, an important detail to remember. I looked around to make sure the area was clear and knew all citizens were currently out of the building, pulled out my tool gun and spawned in the new PD lobby. This new lobby didn't have a crazy defense, or one way walls to shoot through, it didn't have a single fading door or crazy crouch or jump spots. This new lobby was the exact opposite of extravagant actually, this dupe is so boring looking it (if you ask me) could pass as just part of the map. Yet it caused a huge stir.

 

There was yelling, spam happening in the chat about it, admins beings called all over, laws created over it, people taking up arms and raiding the PD without adverting and much completely unnecessary anger.

 

The broadcasts from me the mayor began, "The PD Lobby has been renovated and unfortunately has become smaller."

 

 

A lot smaller as you can see.

Many thought at first sight that this is just blocking the PD lobby health station and doors with a giant F-U literally in front of them. Then some thought that one of these new walls must be a fading door, but as you know from earlier there are not.

 

The Law went out:

4) The Side Door is now the ONLY entrance into the PD.

 

On the 3rd there was chaos caused by this, which ultimately had SuicideBlue decide it needed to be deleted and not spawned again. I had police officers in rebellion spawning props to block the side door, jail, and court to try and force me to delete the PD lobby. I argue that they were the ones prop blocking not myself, even adding a new law. Law 5) Do not spawn props blocking access from the side door unless you make them a fading door. A law that actually isn't a law, more of a reminder of the server rules to get the officers spawning the props in to stop.  It was determined that their blocking of the side door is not considered prop block but the blocking of the front door is.

 

Under General Cop Rules:
✓ All doors in PD are allowed to be locked (including first door)
✓ You can build roadblocks/base/build checkpoints/ do what you gotta do

Under Basing Rules:

✓ You cannot have a base that requires special tools/prop climb. It must be raid-able by a single person using a lock-pick and/or keypad-cracker. (check)

 

If you've played here long enough I am willing to bet you've seen the PD side door blocked with props before to funnel people into the front lobby but what about the opposite?

 

 

This brings us to our discussion and the point of this (Beautiful) dupe. Can the side door be considered the only entrance into the PD?

 

With this dupe every area of the PD is still accessible behind the lock-pickable doors that come with the map. No fading door necessary. The Locker Room and lobby office (where I'm standing in the picture) is a straight shot from the side door like normal. The main path through the PD becomes through the court room and jail to get upstairs where you can either go towards the mayors office or down the stairs to health station. That last part of the sentence is what caused a lot of fighting in the server.  The health station had no props blocking it, just a new path to get to it.

• The front doors can be locked normally with key anyway, could you lock the door and make the same law without the dupe? - If so the dupe is just redundant.
• Can you block the PD side door and declare the front entrance as the only entrance into the PD? - If so isn't this the same just switched?
• Blocking off the jail entrance from the court room does the same thing does it not? - You only have one path to the mayors office in either scenario.
• Do you even need a law to tell people that if there are two doors to a building and one is blocked by the owner to use the other one?

 

and the biggest question, can I please use my simple dupe that references Fallout New Vegas that I love so much?

 

 

 

 

 

[Hoopajoop]

so long as there aren't any areas of pd that are completely blocked off, and there's still an entrance that can still allow raider with a lockpick and keypad cracker to access the entirety of it (should they go unopposed) i don't see why it shouldn't be allowed

 

of course a ruling like that could lead to some silly nonsense, like blocking off the front and side doors and declaring the sewer vent entrance to be the one true entrance

[Smelly]

2 hours ago, Hoopajoop said:

so long as there aren't any areas of pd that are completely blocked off, and there's still an entrance that can still allow raider with a lockpick and keypad cracker to access the entirety of it (should they go unopposed) i don't see why it shouldn't be allowed

 

of course a ruling like that could lead to some silly nonsense, like blocking off the front and side doors and declaring the sewer vent entrance to be the one true entrance

+1 for this, you can still access the PD, doesn’t matter. The vent however would require a swep/building/spawning ents to get in which wouldn’t be allowed, you have to be able to access it without those things. 

[Hoopajoop]

2 hours ago, Smelly said:

The vent however would require a swep/building/spawning ents to get in which wouldn’t be allowed

oright i forgot that was a thing

 

+1

Edited October 10, 2022 by Hoopajoop